Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Sam Dyck
After reading through the changeset discussion, I discovered that one of my imports in Northern Manitoba made Worst of OSM. ( http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/post/22180046353/dear-openstreetmap-isnt-it-strange-how-the). As someone who spends a some time amount of time in some of relatively

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-08-30 09:18 AM, James wrote: > He's even going to revert my work: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41776742 > I've forwarded this to the DWG, it's getting rediculous. Using a dedicated account for imports is one of the few "musts". Nakaner may be being a little officious here, but

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Begin Daniel
No problem, I am not sure about the best way to deal with wooded areas. Canvec product was created with “layers” and merging them manually in a multipolygon is quite difficult. I usually correct everything that is reasonable such as merging water in wooded multipolygon, transferring text nodes

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread James
Sorry I'm a very sarcastic person and have trouble decerning if people are sarcastic or not. Anyways what should we do with canvec tiles? Should we correct as much as possible leaving only 0-10 warnings(there are nodes that are tagged as land, but there's island names or other relevant info aka

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Begin Daniel
No sarcasm at all, why? Sorry you got that impression ☹ Daniel From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 20:50 To: Begin Daniel Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap; john whelan; Adam Martin Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada Not sure if you are

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread James
Not sure if you are sarcastic or serious... but anyways, I'm glad the rest of talk-ca feels the same way(sorry for highjacking fix the forest thread even though it was kind of related) On Aug 30, 2016 8:43 PM, "Begin Daniel" wrote: Wow, same ideas, same concerns, provided

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Begin Daniel
Wow, same ideas, same concerns, provided independently... That is cool! Daniel From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 19:15 To: john whelan Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada I've contacted him as well.

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Adam Martin
I've contacted him as well. Here's what I sent: Good day, Nakaner I am a resident of Canada and a contributor to OSM here. Looking over your profile, you have over 5,500 edits across the OSM project, making you a skilled mapper. It has come to the attention of the Canadian OSM community recently

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
But Daniel's comments make sense, I'm not sure we should go for this type of approach. Still I concur with them. On the forests there is an issue but its not open to a simplistic approach and hence difficult to resolve. John On 30 August 2016 at 18:28, James wrote: > I'm

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread James
I'm totally in agreement with Daniel, especially that it creates a hostile community On Aug 30, 2016 6:05 PM, "Pierre Béland" wrote: > +1 > > J'invite les autres contributeurs canadiens à indiquer leur accord avec le > message de Daniel. :) > > I invite other canadian OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Pierre Béland
+1 J'invite les autres contributeurs canadiens à indiquer leur accord avec le message de Daniel. :) I invite other canadian OSM contributors to express their agreement with Daniel message. :)    Pierre De : Begin Daniel À : James ; Adam Martin

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Begin Daniel
I have contacted the user that is about/has deleted some changesets imported from Canvec. I may agree on some of his comments but totally disagree on the method he is using to make his point. I do not know what the DWG will do about this guy but here is the message I sent him... Bonjour

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread James
He's even going to revert my work: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41776742 I've forwarded this to the DWG, it's getting rediculous. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Adam Martin wrote: > That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the >

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Adam Martin
That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the time needed to get them right is not a small investment. To have someone review this work is a valuable service, but I don't think just blanket reverting due to the violation of one rule is the solution, especially in context

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread John Marshall
Andrew, I hear you! I have been trying to add data around unmapped Northern Communities around James Bay and Nunavut. But after someone revert some of my work I'm stopping:( John On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Andrew wrote: > On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 23:47 -0400,

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread James
Andrew, you best be careful there is a german that is reverting CanVec imports for stupid little reasons see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39517002 On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Andrew wrote: > On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 23:47 -0400, Gordon Dewis wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Pierre Béland
Effectivement, nous essayons de progresser collectivement. Effacer ce qui a été fait n'est pas une solution. Et nous hésitions à compléter l'import d'immenses zones au nord du Canada dû aux divers problèmes rencontrés. Il m'arrive à l'occasion de couper un grand polygone représentant une forêt

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Andrew
On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 23:47 -0400, Gordon Dewis wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Antoine Beaupré > > org> wrote: > > > > On 2016-08-25 10:13:25, Gordon Dewis wrote: > > > Alan is right. I've brought in a few tiles worth of forests from > > > Canvec in > > > the area you're talking