But Daniel's comments make sense, I'm not sure we should go for this type
of approach.

Still I concur with them.  On the forests there is an issue but its not
open to a simplistic approach and hence difficult to resolve.

John

On 30 August 2016 at 18:28, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm totally in agreement with Daniel, especially that it creates a hostile
> community
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 6:05 PM, "Pierre Béland" <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> J'invite les autres contributeurs canadiens à indiquer leur accord avec
>> le message de Daniel. :)
>>
>> I invite other canadian OSM contributors to express their agreement with
>> Daniel message. :)
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *De :* Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com>
>> *À :* James <james2...@gmail.com>; Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com>
>> *Cc :* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Envoyé le :* mardi 30 août 2016 17h35
>> *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
>>
>> I have contacted the user that is about/has deleted some changesets
>> imported from Canvec. I may agree on some of his comments but totally
>> disagree on the method he is using to make his point.
>>
>> I do not know what the DWG will do about this guy but here is the message
>> I sent him...
>> Bonjour Nakaner, I understand that you wish the data in OSM being
>> accurate, well-structured and made according to the rules developed by the
>> OSM community. However, I would strongly suggest that you discuss your
>> point with the Canadian community before deleting any changesets.
>>
>> Canvec imports are running for more than 6 years and the structure of the
>> data was discussed with the Canadian OSM community, including OSMF members,
>> for more than a year. The result is a compromise that used to suit most
>> members. The rules you are mentioning in the comments you leave where not
>> even written at that time.
>>
>> Most Canadian importers simply keep doing what they used to do years ago.
>> If you consider they should not, have a discussion with the whole Canadian
>> community. You will then be able to make your point, make everyone aware of
>> these rules and understand your concerns.
>>
>> You will then be able to build a stronger community, not discourage
>> people to contribute because they have made errors...
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 09:18
>> *To:* Adam Martin
>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
>>
>> He's even going to revert my work:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41776742
>> I've forwarded this to the DWG, it's getting rediculous.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the
>> time needed to get them right is not a small investment. To have someone
>> review this work is a valuable service, but I don't think just blanket
>> reverting due to the violation of one rule is the solution, especially in
>> context of the lack of data in some of those areas. The CANVEC stuff will
>> do until surveys or satellite data catches up with those areas.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew, I hear you! I have been trying to add data around unmapped
>> Northern Communities around James Bay and Nunavut. But after someone revert
>> some of my work I'm stopping:(
>>
>> John
>>
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