Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread John Whelan
At the end of the day one would hope we are a community.  We are a large group with divergent opinions and to be honest there is a great deal of interest in non-mappers in this sort of data. For example building data is being used in Tanzania to work out the optimal areas for group solar

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Yaro Shkvorets
As an experienced local Ontario and Quebec mapper I don't see any major problems with Stats Can building quality. It's detailed and recent, it's the best dataset we could ever possibly get and it's far superior to Microsoft quality. Having many buildings with "almost square angles" in this dataset

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
I just reported this to the data working group, in case you haven't already. Hopefully they will step in! Cheers, Nate Wessel Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning NateWessel.com On 3/15/19 10:30 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Réponse

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
Given the scale of this illicit import (thanks Pierre for the stats!), I would, yes, stick my neck out and say that I oppose this action as a Canadian mapper. Contributors who are clearly violating community norms about discussion and consensus do not constitute an implicit consensus of some

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Réponse immédiate avec refus de discussion de la part de DannyMcD_imports. Celui-ci indique qu'il prévoit continuer l'import.voir  https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67686901 | There was a discussion, issues were raised, the problems (to the extent that they existed at all) have been

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Bonjour Jarek Ce n'est malheureusement pas le seul contributeur qui agit ainsi.  J'estime en divisant (Objets/5) que depuis le 1er février, 6 contributeurs ont importé près de 1 million de bâtiments. Selon les commentaires, 5 provinces ont été couvertes. Cette information est parfois inexacte.

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread John Whelan
If the local mappers in Alberta or BC feel the data quality is not good enough then I think it is up to them to take action but I think it really is up to the local mapping community and defining them is difficult sometimes.  Also remember agreements within the local community are not always

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
IMO the huron/hamptonavemapper import is quite clearly in active disagreement with the import suspension - while I could believe that one user could overlook clicking on the wiki link in their changeset messages just once and seeing the bold "on hold", setting up a brand new similarly named

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-14 Thread Nate Wessel
I would suggest, again, that the tasking manager for this import be locked or taken down if that is not possible. One good way to stop people from importing when we don't have consensus is to not make it so easy for them. Indeed, I would find it plausible if these people said they didn't even

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-14 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
The changeset comment messages link to the Stats Canada import plan on the OSM wiki. I missed it but there were also some edits in Alberta. Quebec edits I saw were only a couple, outside of Quebec. http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/148 has also been updated, and the Alberta tasks. It does raise

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-14 Thread john whelan
Wicked lad importing without an import plan? Ask him nicely where the import plan for their imports is. Looks like a new mapper so may not know the rules. I think currently there are two sets of data that are licensed for import, the Stats Can stuff and the Microsoft stuff. I haven't seen any

[Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-14 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Are people aware that there are buildings being imported by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/huronavemapper (most recent 12 hours ago) and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/hamptonavemapper (most recent 5 days ago)? I notice the wiki still says the import is on hold. Thanks, --Jarek