Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-23 Thread James Ewen
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > And it is suggested to deactivate the option Lock on road. If you leave the "snap to road" function enabled in the GPS, you can conceivably be violating copyright law. If the map database in the GPS is protected under copyright, and you ar

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-23 Thread Pierre Béland
t;Envoyé le : Mardi 20 novembre 2012 21h11 >Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy > >I redid some of my survey yesterday following Pierre and Bernie's suggestions. >The results are more reasonable. After averaging, some of my points were >showing error of +/- 2 m or less. > >

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-22 Thread James Ewen
:42 > To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy > > I redid some of my survey yesterday following Pierre and Bernie's > suggestions. The results are more reasonable. After averaging, some of > my points were showing error of +/- 2 m or less. >

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel Begin
ssage- From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Sent: November-20-12 22:42 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy I redid some of my survey yesterday following Pierre and Bernie's suggestions. The results are more reasonable. After averaging, som

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-20 Thread Tom Taylor
I redid some of my survey yesterday following Pierre and Bernie's suggestions. The results are more reasonable. After averaging, some of my points were showing error of +/- 2 m or less. In working on the new trace, I learned to shift the Bing images as necessary. Then I found that some buildin

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Pierre Béland
" ; >"talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" >Envoyé le : Lundi 19 novembre 2012 10h29 >Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy > >I will do a resurvey in the way you suggest. It was really disappointing to >find I couldn't trust my GPS at all (well, I did some mental a

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Tom Taylor wrote: > I had a frustrating experience last night, sorting out an area in my > neighbourhood. I laid down a GPS track totalling some 4 km. The whole track > was about 10 meters to the west of the Bing and Canvec data already in > place. North-south acc

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
, Bernie (SNB); talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy Other things you could do: check if the Canvec data has been moved after being imported. As I've said, Bing imagery can be improperly aligned, but not everybody is aware of that. So it's possible that a we

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Brent Fraser
Tom, Your results are not unusual. A newer handheld navigation-grade receiver has an accuracy of 3 to 5 meters at best (older ones without WAAS have an accuracy of 10 m). Slowly changing (over hours) atmospheric effects can introduce an systematic offset into your coordinates of 3 to 5 or ev

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Other things you could do: check if the Canvec data has been moved after being imported. As I've said, Bing imagery can be improperly aligned, but not everybody is aware of that. So it's possible that a well-meaning mapper has moved the Canvec data to match the imagery. Did you check your GPS devic

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Tom Taylor
I will do a resurvey in the way you suggest. It was really disappointing to find I couldn't trust my GPS at all (well, I did some mental adjustment of waypoints to place building entrances), and being off by a constant amount for 4 km certainly makes one suspicious. A bit to the north, my GPS

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-19 Thread Gregory
Who said Bing and/or Canvec are accurate? On 18 November 2012 19:31, Tom Taylor wrote: > Mostly the buildings were two stories only. A high-voltage transmission > line runs behind them, the width of the buildings and more away, but maybe > it had some effect. > > > On 18/11/2012 11:23 AM, Pierr

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-18 Thread Tom Taylor
Mostly the buildings were two stories only. A high-voltage transmission line runs behind them, the width of the buildings and more away, but maybe it had some effect. On 18/11/2012 11:23 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Tom You can try to repeat the experience with this same GPS and compare your res

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-18 Thread Pierre Béland
'Talk-CA OpenStreetMap' >Envoyé le : Dimanche 18 novembre 2012 10h43 >Objet : [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy > >I had a frustrating experience last night, sorting out an area in my >neighbourhood. I laid down a GPS track totalling some 4 km. The whole track >was about 10 mete

[Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy

2012-11-18 Thread Tom Taylor
I had a frustrating experience last night, sorting out an area in my neighbourhood. I laid down a GPS track totalling some 4 km. The whole track was about 10 meters to the west of the Bing and Canvec data already in place. North-south accuracy varied, but wasn't anywhere near so bad. It doesn