Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

If every license was perfect, we wouldnt need lawyers... On Mar 4, 2017 10:03 AM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > On 2017-03-04 09:09 AM, James wrote: > > As the LWG said, it's not a blanket acceptance of all OGL variants, but > > if future licenses we come across are exactly

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

On 2017-03-04 09:09 AM, James wrote: > As the LWG said, it's not a blanket acceptance of all OGL variants, but > if future licenses we come across are exactly the same(kdiff of text or > something as proof) except the city/entity name. We will have a strong > case that it is compatible with ODbL.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

Weird there was the same thing yesterday in Ottawa with open.canada.ca On Mar 4, 2017 9:39 AM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > On 2017-03-04 08:20 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > > > > We can follow the same steps and workflow in the future if we > potentially move to another city.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

On 2017-03-04 08:20 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > > We can follow the same steps and workflow in the future if we potentially > move to another city. > This is also something municipalities can use in defining their open data > licenses. Yup - for that reason, I will be asking the LWG about the

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

As the LWG said, it's not a blanket acceptance of all OGL variants, but if future licenses we come across are exactly the same(kdiff of text or something as proof) except the city/entity name. We will have a strong case that it is compatible with ODbL. The problem lies when cities decide to add

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

I assume then this means that other municipalities that use the municipal 2.0 version of the Treasury Board Open Data License can now have their bus stops imported if the local mappers wish to do so? Thanks John On 3 March 2017 at 21:15, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > I just got

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

This is fantastic news! Thank you everyone for your help! We can follow the same steps and workflow in the future if we potentially move to another city. This is also something municipalities can use in defining their open data licenses. Bjenk Ellefsen

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

Thanks Stewart for bringing this information forward. We will surely make sure to spread the announcement locally here in Ottawa. Enjoy the weekend! *~~* *Denis Carriere* *GIS Software & Systems Specialist* On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:01 AM, James wrote: > Thank you

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

Thank you scruss for digging up the meeting notes :) On Mar 4, 2017 12:40 AM, "Heather Leson" wrote: Fantastic. Happy open data day! On 4 Mar 2017 04:12, "John Marshall" wrote: > Great news > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:16 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

Fantastic. Happy open data day! On 4 Mar 2017 04:12, "John Marshall" wrote: > Great news > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:16 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > >> I just got access to the OSMF LWG draft minutes from yesterday, and I >> have good news: Ottawa ODL 2.0 data

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

Great news On Mar 3, 2017 9:16 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > I just got access to the OSMF LWG draft minutes from yesterday, and I have > good news: Ottawa ODL 2.0 data *can* be included in the OSM database. > > The minutes link - https://docs.google.com/document/d/ >

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

I just got access to the OSMF LWG draft minutes from yesterday, and I have good news: Ottawa ODL 2.0 data /can/ be included in the OSM database. The minutes link - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KyTLbQWSmo1rdoppqlFGTB3by-qVAzjLo_LPml3Ri9Y/edit - is still draft so may not be generally

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

I have a statement from the city that the ODBL and ODL are inline and pose no issues from the city's stand point. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Explicit_permission On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Hi James -

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

Hi James - > Yet it's the same as the Vancouver one that has been approved, and had > data imported Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the way that OSM needs to work. The licences aren't the same: you can't use Vancouver's agreement to bind the City of Ottawa, and the Federal agreement

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

Yet it's the same as the Vancouver one that has been approved, and had data imported On Jan 25, 2017 8:30 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Hi Bjenk, > > > Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that > > we, the public, organizations including

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

Hi Bjenk, > Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that > we, the public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the > data. The OSM project can't accept data that might have hidden licensing issues that might jeopardize OSM's existence. All new licenses are

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that we, the public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the data. With that said, It has not yet been clearly explained what are the issues nor the sources raising concerns. Many have asked for clarifications and these

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

> > Best regards, > Bernie. > > Bernie Connors, P.Eng > Geomatics Engineer and Civil Servant > New Maryland, NB > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. > Original Message > From: Stewart C. Russell > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 12:05 AM >

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada Hi Bjenk - > I am not sure why there is confusion about Ottawa's ODL and it's > equivalence to OGL because the information is public but here it is to > clarify: > > "The Open Data License is based on vers

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

Hi Bjenk - > I am not sure why there is confusion about Ottawa's ODL and it's > equivalence to OGL because the information is public but here it is to > clarify: > > "The Open Data License is based on version 2.0 of the “Open Government > Licence – Canada” which was developed through public

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

I am not sure why there is confusion about Ottawa's ODL and it's equivalence to OGL because the information is public but here it is to clarify: "The Open Data License is based on version 2.0 of the “Open Government Licence – Canada” which was developed through public consultation and