[Talk-GB] Dartford mapping

Hi, If you do look at mapping further East, please be aware that the village of Bean is now mapped - does not show up on 'noname' yet. Nick (Tallguy) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

Peter Miller wrote: > On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:18, Andy Allan wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Miller>> wrote: >>> Without going through every edit in the changeset it will be hard to >>> determine. If we do have to go through every changeset then we >>> might as well >>> revert t

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

Why do we cut them up for the bus routes? Wouldn't it be easier to build a navagation app at does the calculation using all the stops as waypoints. Wile I have been learning to map I hate it when I have load of short ways (few meters to a few hundred meters). I think it looks crap I often end up d

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartford Mapping Party

I'm tempted to say it is a bit late in the day. This is the downside of planning a party a few months in advance, i.e. the risk of a lot of mapping being done prior to the event. I prefer morning meetups that are near to stations, as some people usually get there by train and bike. Bluewate

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Steve Hill wrote: > 1. It is one way in the appropriate direction (clockwise in the UK) > 2. All the roads leave/join the outside of the loop (*) > 3. It generally isn't very built-up in the middle (**) > 4. It has a reasonably circular shape (***) > 5. It is signp

[Talk-GB] Dartford Mapping Party

Right I'm planning to be at the Dartford Mapping Party on Saturday, Seeing as the proposed area has shifted down river, (Due to most of up-river dartford being already done) I surgest a change of meeting point to Greenhithe (Say Asda or Bluewater). (as its more central on the map now and parking i

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

The wiki (currently) envisages a single way for a roundabout. I think we're concluding that needs to be updated. Richard On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, WessexMario wrote: > There are lots of reasons why it makes sense to split roundabouts up > into discrete ways, > some of which may be or may

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

Brian Prangle wrote: > One more thing about roundabouts as if it isn't complex enough > already: which street/road name do roundabouts get from all the roads > entering them? I can never decide so I just don't add a name ( except > where it is a major roundabout on a ring road for instance whic

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

There are lots of reasons why it makes sense to split roundabouts up into discrete ways, some of which may be or may not be part of a route relation, There's no compelling reason for a roundabout having to be a single end-to-end polygon, as software can easily 'connect' linked ways that have a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

One more thing about roundabouts as if it isn't complex enough already: which street/road name do roundabouts get from all the roads entering them? I can never decide so I just don't add a name ( except where it is a major roundabout on a ring road for instance which tends to get and individual na

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

> From: "Robert (Jamie) Munro" > Message-ID: <4a6863b5.2090...@arjam.net> > This one has 2 dual carriageways running through it perpendicular to > each other, and a third dual carriageway that ends at the roundabout: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.497691&lon=-0.45292&zoom=18&layers=B000FT

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Hill wrote: > * Increasingly there are roundabouts with roads running through the > middle: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.936219&lon=-1.24996&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF > The road through the middle is generally one-way though, and usually

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

Shaun McDonald wrote: >Sent: 23 July 2009 1:56 PM >To: Richard Mann >Cc: talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org; Talk GB >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies > > >On 22 Jul 2009, at 23:24, Richard Mann wrote: > >> I've not exactly rushing to get to that stage, but I couldn't s

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On 22 Jul 2009, at 23:24, Richard Mann wrote: I've not exactly rushing to get to that stage, but I couldn't see any obvious way to edit the ordering of a relation. Could anyone give me any clues? You can change the ordering of the relation using JOSM's relation editor. You may need to

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

I think that we let taggers decide whether it's a roundabout or not (to me the defining feature is that you perceive it as a single junction, rather than a series of connected junctions in a one-way system, usually because there's nothing in the middle, however there's quite a grey area, and percep

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

>>> How about this one: >>> >>> >>> which fulfills all of the above 5 criteria, but just has a 'short-cut' >>> across one side. In this case, each 'junction' on the roundabout is >>> controlled by traffic lights and has between 2 and 5 lanes. I have to >>> n

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

>> How about this one: >> >> >> which fulfills all of the above 5 criteria, but just has a 'short-cut' >> across one side. In this case, each 'junction' on the roundabout is >> controlled by traffic lights and has between 2 and 5 lanes. I have to >> navigate it

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009/7/23 Donald Allwright : > >>I'm just trying to think what makes a roundabout a roundabout instead of >>just a one-way system.  So far I've come up with: > >>1. It is one way in the appropriate direction (clockwise in the UK) >>2. All the roads leave/join the outside of the loop (*) >>3. It gen

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

Steve Hill wrote: >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.936219&lon=-1.24996&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF >>> >> How about this one: >> >> >> which fulfills all of the above 5 criteria, but just has a 'short-cut' >> across one side. In this case, each 'junction'

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Donald Allwright wrote: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.936219&lon=-1.24996&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF > > How about this one: > > > which fulfills all of the above 5 criteria, but just has a 'short-cut' > across one side. In this case, eac

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

>I'm just trying to think what makes a roundabout a roundabout instead of >just a one-way system. So far I've come up with: >1. It is one way in the appropriate direction (clockwise in the UK) >2. All the roads leave/join the outside of the loop (*) >3. It generally isn't very built-up in the m

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Andy Allan wrote: > I disagree - I've come across town-centre one-way systems that are > smaller than some large out-of-town roundabouts. There is a clear > distinction between them in the way they are signed - e.g. using a > "roundabout ahead" warning triangle, so we should

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Steve Hill wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Nicholas Barnes wrote: > >> Should, for example, the component ways making up the roundabout be >> grouped in their own "I'm a roundabout" relationship? > > Do we need to be able to tell which ways are part of a roundabout an

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Nicholas Barnes wrote: > Should, for example, the component ways making up the roundabout be > grouped in their own "I'm a roundabout" relationship? Do we need to be able to tell which ways are part of a roundabout anyway? I mean, on the ground a roundabout is just a one-way