[Talk-GB] Dorset/Wilts county boundary wrong...is there a definitive source?

2010-08-22 Thread m902
Hello everyone... I noticed that the Dorset/Wiltshire county boundary just north of Shaftesbury is shown in the wrong place in OSM. There is a road sign on the A350 about a quarter mile north of the junction with the A30, whereas the map shows the boundary crossing the A350 about a mile to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Derbyshire area unconnected (Dave F.)

2010-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/08/2010 22:52, Richard Bullock wrote: It's also a "between other mappers area" - north of the West Midlands, a bit west for me and a bit SE for mikh43. He's roughly editing at my southern limit as well. Rereading my post after sending it, it read like I was saying that there wasn't anyo

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Derbyshire area unconnected (Dave F.)

2010-08-22 Thread Richard Bullock
On 21/08/2010 10:01, Ian Spencer wrote: I suspect that it is an area where it has never been done properly, so there hasn't been an example to follow. It's also a "between other mappers area" - north of the West Midlands, a bit west for me and a bit SE for mikh43. He's roughly editing at my

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew
David Groom writes: > Oh , if only it were that simple. > > Partly as I said in my earlier email, the CT's talk about data you have > added, not data which still exists. > > But more importantly your contributions would still remain in all the planet > dumps, so I presume you'd be relying on

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% David Groom writes: Oh , if only it were that simple. Partly as I said in my earlier email, the CT's talk a

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Craig Loftus
Andrew wrote: > There is essentially no difference post-relicensing between data derived from > an > unrelicensable source and mapping that is not relicensed because people cannot > be contacted. Planet dumps from the CC-by-SA era are a non-issue because they > remain wholly under the Creative Co

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% David Groom writes: Arguably it is too late, if you take a strict interpretation of the CT's and their prea

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew
David Groom writes: > Arguably it is too late, if you take a strict interpretation of the CT's and > their preamble. I see no real problem. All of my Opendata-based edits have clear source tags; apart from quality control issues, I have always understood this is needed for the licence even wit

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Barnett, Phillip
Thanks 80n and David, Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be dropping this rather quickly? Phillip -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "80n" <80n...@gmail.com> To: "Barnett, Phillip" Cc: "David Groom" ; Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% Phillip OSM has always taken a very conservative approach

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Barnett, Phillip" To: "'80n'" <80n...@gmail.com>; "David Groom" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% I've been mapping off and on since April 2006, and I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread 80n
Phillip OSM has always taken a very conservative approach on licensing and if in doubt has erred on the side of caution. Following this philosophy you cannot agree to the contributor terms. If you can find a way to revert your OS contributions then you would be able to agree to the new contributo

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Barnett, Phillip
I've been mapping off and on since April 2006, and I've contributed approximately 1320 changesets in that time. Only three of which include OS data. Are all my contributions going to be rejected? I have not, as yet, signed up to the new CTs, though was intending to. I'm now not touching OS data

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread 80n
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Groom wrote: > > > - Original Message - From: "Kevin Peat" > To: "Robert Whittaker (OSM)" > >; > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source > WAS The last 2% > > > > However,

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
>>> However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is >>> incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly >>> ODbL too. >>> >> I thought this was still to be confirmed? It may not be that important to >> townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data f

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Peat" To: "Robert Whittaker (OSM)" ; Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is incompati

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Peat
> However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is > incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly > ODbL too. > > I thought this was still to be confirmed? It may not be that important to townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data for rural map

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
>> OS opendata is released under a CC-BY-SA licence >> > Please go and actually read the OS OpenData licence. It is not CC-BY-SA. > Please stop spreading this FUD. You're right, it's not CC-By-SA. The actual license is a custom "attribution-style" license, that's closest equivalent in CC terms wou

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-22 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
I think the following thread might be of interest: http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@openstreetmap.org/msg10077.html Try pressing 'u' in Potlatch edit view : http://osm.org/go/eu2Tbe8i. From: Ian Spencer To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 21 August, 20