Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Ed Loach
Source:maxspeed was added to a lot of ways by chriscf, such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7529455 and some either side. I don’t know how many other mappers were using it before then, or an easy way to see how many UK ways he added the tag to. This was based I think on what othe

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I can think of quite a few border roads that will need signposts before that happens. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/09/2012 1:38 SomeoneElse wrote: Peter Miller wrote: > > Correct. I did however use alternative maxspeed:type at times which > also appears in the DB and which I feel is

[Talk-GB] Errors with addresses in OSMI

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Chance
I've been nosing around the brilliant OSM Inspector tool to check up on my work with addresses, and I've come across some errors I don't understand or can't fix. The first issue is that the tool flags up "endpoint_wrong_format", which the wiki says means one or other of the numbers in the housenum

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors with addresses in OSMI

2012-09-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 25/09/2012 10:34, Tom Chance wrote: The first issue is that the tool flags up "endpoint_wrong_format", which the wiki says means one or other of the numbers in the housenumber aren't integers. But they are! Here's the OSMI view: http://tiny.cc/kpp6kw Here's an example way it is flagging up:

Re: [Talk-GB] First steps with JOSM

2012-09-25 Thread Gregory
On 23 September 2012 09:52, Lester Caine wrote: > > I had to 'disconnect' a number of boundaries that were connected directly > to the A44 to fit the woodland area in and I've added the 'footway' across > the roundabout for pedestrians ... still need to work out any extra tags > that needs! > Some

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors with addresses in OSMI

2012-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 10:34 +0100, Tom Chance wrote: > The second issue is with roads that don't really exist. For example, a > row of houses have addresses for "OSM Terrace" but front straight onto > "OSM Road". These terraces often appear where new homes are built and > there's no space for addr

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors with addresses in OSMI

2012-09-25 Thread Tom Chance
On 25 September 2012 12:58, Craig Wallace wrote: > On 25/09/2012 10:34, Tom Chance wrote: > >> The first issue is that the tool flags up "endpoint_wrong_format", which >> the wiki says means one or other of the numbers in the housenumber >> aren't integers. But they are! >> >> Here's the OSMI vie

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Jason Cunningham
A few of my own thoughts. Since the subject came up on the GB list a year ago I've been adding speed limits. Personal confusion about a speed limit on a roundabout along a dual carriageway led to me creating a personal page about UK speed limits http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu/UK_Spe

[Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
Hello All, If anybody can tell me how to go about rectifying break in Rackenford Road in the following area http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.996550321579&lon=-3.73412847518921&zoom=16 I'd be very grateful. That discontinuity has been bugging me for a few weeks. I can see it a background la

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 25 September 2012 14:23, Brad Rogers wrote: > If anybody can tell me how to go about rectifying break in Rackenford > Road in the following area > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.996550321579&lon=-3.73412847518921&zoom=16 > > I'd be very grateful. > The data within OpenStreetMap appe

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Mann
Delete and redraw? I've tweaked it slightly and some things have re-rendered. But it is a bit odd. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Jason Cunningham wrote: > > > On 25 September 2012 14:23, Brad Rogers wrote: > >> If anybody can tell me how to go about rectifying break in Rackenford >> Road in t

Re: [Talk-GB] First steps with JOSM

2012-09-25 Thread Lester Caine
Gregory wrote: The area that is being complained about is the field just to the right side of the roundabout. There is a gated road and the 'gap' in the hedge is the gate into that field off that road. I've currently left the same gap as there is in the hedge, and on one hand that

Re: [Talk-GB] First steps with JOSM

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lester Caine wrote: > OK Finally given in and downloaded JOSM ;) SPLITTER!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS-0Az7dgRY cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/First-steps-with-JOSM-tp5726970p5727392.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archi

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Gregory Williams
I've managed to remove the kink from the road with this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13247989 I loaded the data in JOSM and showed the Mapnik rendering as the background. I then checked the history of the nodes near to the kink and found that the then penultimate

Re: [Talk-GB] First steps with JOSM

2012-09-25 Thread Andy Robinson
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] > Sent: 25 September 2012 16:07 > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] First steps with JOSM > > Lester Caine wrote: > > OK Finally given in and downloaded JOSM ;) > > SPLITTER!!! > > http://ww

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:24:18 +0100 Richard Mann wrote: Hello Richard, >Delete and redraw? I've tweaked it slightly and some things have >re-rendered. But it is a bit odd. I think I may have tweaked myself, but can't remember (it was a while ago) exactly what I did. Thanks to you, Ed and Jason

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:17:44 +0100 "Gregory Williams" wrote: Hello Gregory, >I guess that for some reason or another the previous version of the >node, or at least the line geometry for the road which used it, was >still stored in the backing Postgres database used for rendering. Hence >it was b

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Gregory Williams
Brad, I'm glad I could help. The most important point is that the kink in the road was in no way down to a mistake on your part. It looks like it's happened due to some (hopefully very rare) bug in the code that's used on the servers for keeping up-to-date with the changes in a stage a little ahe

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
SomeoneElse writes: > Presumably the argument for tagging "maxspeed=60mph" where it's actually > signed > as "national" is that it's too hard for routers to figure out whether > something's a single or dual carriageway? I'm not sure why we have to depart > from the "on-the-ground" rule in this

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Jason Cunningham
The waterways in the area of the road seemed also to cause a problem. I've remapped them and they've now sorted themselves out Jason ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Ed Loach
It’s almost as though the rendering database is missing a changeset (or a replication diff containing that changeset), possibly http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9728130 There are further anomalies a little to the northwest: http://osm.org/go/euJg~OQQw- (found by using the Browse

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:43:08 +0100 "Ed Loach" wrote: Hello Ed, >There are further anomalies a little to the northwest: >http://osm.org/go/euJg~OQQw- Hmmm... IIRC, that was one of mime, too. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediate

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:35:34 +0100 Jason Cunningham wrote: Hello Jason, >The waterways in the area of the road seemed also to cause a problem. >I've remapped them and they've now sorted themselves out As they stood, they bore little relation to what's actually on the ground. Same applies to lo

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Brad Rogers wrote: As they stood, they bore little relation to what's actually on the ground. Same applies to lots of waterways in the area. I believe they were loaded en mass from an open source data set, but I'm not sure. "source=npe" suggests that they were traced from New Popular Edition

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 14:00 +0100, Jason Cunningham wrote: > A few of my own thoughts. Since the subject came up on the GB list a > year ago I've been adding speed limits. Personal confusion about a > speed limit on a roundabout along a dual carriageway led to me > creating a personal page about UK

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Andrew M. Bishop wrote: As the author of an OSM data consumer (the router "Routino") I think that distinguishing between single and dual carriageways is mostly irrelevant in the argument for preferring numeric values for maxspeed tags. The real reason which I see, and which is much more difficul

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Colin Smale
On 25/09/2012 18:25, Andrew M. Bishop wrote: As the author of an OSM data consumer (the router "Routino") Can I just say how refreshing it is to have some input from the data consumers. Most of the interminable debates about tagging are between parties who talk about data entry issues (how many

Re: [Talk-GB] This one is driving me potty

2012-09-25 Thread Jon Burgess
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 17:43 +0100, Ed Loach wrote: > It’s almost as though the rendering database is missing a changeset > (or a replication diff containing that changeset), possibly > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9728130 > We just had a similar data error reported via trac wh