I'm a "retired" climber. It would certainly have been useful to have had maps
of crags (the old guidebooks just had drawings of the crags and an OS
reference) and a smart phone to locate the general area of a climb if not the
actual start. From memory, many of the larger crags also have named
I think a certain amount of judgement has to be applied when mapping, and
recognising that trademarks are limited in scope. I suspect mapping the
route "Nike Air Max" http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=233225 might
be a bad idea. But mapping "Nike"
http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i
OK, thanks for that.
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On 23/10/2013 12:14, Derry Hamilton wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
I think that was exactly the basis of BMC vs Rockfax. The BMC author
had put up and named several routes specifically for the guide book,
and there was no other original source for those names
Hi Jonathan,
I think that was exactly the basis of BMC vs Rockfax. The BMC author had
put up and named several routes specifically for the guide book, and there
was no other original source for those names, so the BMC sued and lost when
Rockfax published a guide that included those routes. The ro
As I said, I'm not a lawyer, just erring on the side of caution. My
worry is that if you add the "Nike Chimney" (fake name) as a climbing
route, we may be using something that is not without legal encumbrance.
I'm just paranoid :-)
I would suggest that if anyone goes out, surveys and climbs
I wasn't thinking they could name the physical place but more the route
up. They could devise a particular route up a cliff, involving certain
techniques maybe and give it name that they may claim is proprietary.
So while we could survey and map the route we maybe infringing their
intellectual
Hi Jonathan,
I believe the lack of copyright on route names and location was settled in
BMC vs Rockfax, when the BMC sued on exactly that basis and lost, but I
don't have a cite to hand.
Thanks,
Derry
On 23 October 2013 11:13, Jonathan wrote:
> Hi Derry,
>
> I'm no lawyer, but if the route nam
Don't know if you can do that on hills too?
If there's an unnamed hill somewhere I'll call it "Proprietary Peak" and charge
people one million pounds to use it. ;-)
Nick
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To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
From: Jonathan
Date: 23/10/2013 11:17AM
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ma
Hi Derry,
I'm no lawyer, but if the route name was first used in a copyrighted
publication and never used before that publication then they *may* have
claim to it. Bear in mind that while a route name may not be covered by
copyright it may be covered by a trademark!?
Jonathan
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