Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Update shops, pubs and restaurants

2013-11-17 Thread Andy Robinson
Matthijs, Nice work. We've previously tracks things to do on the wiki as a project list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa-Mercia#Mini_projects So you might add a new project to the table and a new page to track locations that need visiting. We also use this

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan
Hi all, Been following this discussion. My only thoughts would be that having the name for something, such as a Bus Stop makes a lot of sense and it should be in a recognised field, not buried in a local subset of data. However, this should be programmatically addressed on a national level.

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

2013-11-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 November 2013 09:49, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: For name, use whatever is on the bus stop sign Bus information points use two-letter codes ( stop DL, etc). What about using those? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

2013-11-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 17 November 2013 22:03, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 12 November 2013 09:49, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: For name, use whatever is on the bus stop sign Bus information points use two-letter codes ( stop DL, etc). What about using those? These two-letter codes

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

2013-11-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 17 November 2013 23:19, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: My main concern is that I'm not convinced that bus stops even have a name in the UK. There seems to be indeed some variation in what name is being used. But there is some logic. For example, one I just looked at in

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Oliver Jowett
On 17 November 2013 00:10, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: The point is that just using the map is not our target audience. As has been said many times, we are not trying to be an end user mapping site that offers a Google Maps alternative for the masses. Our target audience is people

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Lester Caine
Oliver Jowett wrote: The point is that just using the map is not our target audience. As has been said many times, we are not trying to be an end user mapping site that offers a Google Maps alternative for the masses. Our target audience is people that want to signup and

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Rob Nickerson
To use the map I'd prefer not to have that signup box floating around all the time (I am only logged in when I am about to edit). Oliver You could tick the stay logged in button, or alternatively if you want a full screen map there are plenty of sites that provide alternate views of OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Oliver Jowett
On 17 November 2013 15:06, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: To use the map I'd prefer not to have that signup box floating around all the time (I am only logged in when I am about to edit). Oliver You could tick the stay logged in button, I don't retain cookies between

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Rob Nickerson
On 17 November 2013 21:14, Oliver Jowett oliver.jow...@gmail.com wrote: Is the response to Here's a usability issue with the proposed changes really use something else then? Oliver Not at all. I am trying to help you by communicating the fact that this change is upcoming, and I am collating

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan
I think the point Rob was making is that OpenStreetMap.org can't be all things to all men and neither should it attempt to be. There are many many instances of OSM map data rendered in ways that appeal to various users, the OpenStreetMap.org page should show a generic map use with information

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan
Just read this after sending my reply to Oliver and I think you're right, also think the http://openstreetmap.de/ or even http://openstreetmap.us/ are right also. If we are to render a version of OSM then it should just be seen as a reference implementation of the DB and not some holy grail.

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Lester Caine
Jonathan wrote: Personally speaking I don't feel it would be a terrible idea to ditch the OpenStreetMap.org map and just have this page as the homepage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OpenStreetMap I don't believe OSM is about rendering maps, isn't it about creating a cartographic

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Steve Doerr
On the contrary, I use openstreetmap.org all the time. Whenever I encounter a place I'm unfamiliar with, I look it up on openstreetmap.org. I almost never look at renderings of OSM data through another web-site. In Facebook postings and emails, where I want to link to a map it's invariably to

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-17 Thread Oliver Jowett
On 17 November 2013 21:42, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: p.s. This redesign is a proposal from John of the MapBox team. It will ultimately be accepted or rejected by the OSM Foundation/working groups. Anyone can propose changes, so if you have the coding skills to make this