Re: [Talk-GB] Ashamed to be a part of the OSM GB community

Richard Fairhurst wrote: Thirdly; there is no "they", only "we". OSM, all of it, map and code equally, is made by its contributors. So when Brian says "Surely we can do better than this?": Yes. We can. But only if you're prepared to be part of the "we". The main problem with that statement is t

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

On 1 December 2013 20:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 01.12.2013 21:32, Oliver Jowett wrote: > > The barrier to entry in setting that up is a bit high for me > > unfortunately (unless you have a script already prepared?) > > This'll do: > Works like a charm! Thanks :) Oliver _

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Hi, On 01.12.2013 21:32, Oliver Jowett wrote: > The barrier to entry in setting that up is a bit high for me > unfortunately (unless you have a script already prepared?) This'll do: // ==UserScript== // @name Remove OSM welcome box // @include http://www.openstreetmap.org/* // ==/UserScript

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

On 1 December 2013 20:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 01.12.2013 21:00, Oliver Jowett wrote: > > What's the workaround for users that do not wish to retain cookies? > > GreaseMonkey could be an option. > The barrier to entry in setting that up is a bit high for me unfortunately (unless you

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Hi, On 01.12.2013 21:00, Oliver Jowett wrote: > What's the workaround for users that do not wish to retain cookies? GreaseMonkey could be an option. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-GB

[Talk-GB] Ashamed to be a part of the OSM GB community

I am thoroughly dismayed at the comments on this list over the past couple of days. Huge amounts of work has been put into giving OSM a fresh, contemporary look. In many cases, this work has been entirely voluntary and unpaid. The abuse on this list ("ruined... stupid... unprofessional... ")

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

On 1 December 2013 19:41, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 01/12/13 19:14, Brian Prangle wrote: > > @Rob - I know you communicated this change and asked for feedback for >> which I'm grateful- I'm just pissed off that there was no obvious >> communication of the date of implementation - at best that's

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

On 1 December 2013 19:03, Rob Nickerson wrote: > For most users, you just need to log-in and tick the "always stay logged > in" button and the welcome box will go. As an often requested feature I am > sure that someone will write the required code to add a close button (or my > preference - an up

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

I agree Tom, I don't think the end result would have been different. Personally I'm not bothered but I can see why some may want to "know" when things are about to change. Is there some place we weren't looking that lists upcoming changes and time scales? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

On 01/12/13 19:14, Brian Prangle wrote: @Rob - I know you communicated this change and asked for feedback for which I'm grateful- I'm just pissed off that there was no obvious communication of the date of implementation - at best that's just unprofessionally poor communication, at worst it's

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

So somehow independently of this mailing list I have to know to login to remove this box? Where is this communicated on the website- which is most people's first experience of OSM? A close button is so much more efficient! @Rob - I know you communicated this change and asked for feedback for whic

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Brian, (I tried my best to communicate this change - oh, and it was also at SOTM 2013 :-P ) I agree that these changes should be communicated better which is exactly why I posted news of this change to both the talk and talk-gb mailing list a few weeks ago. I was only aware of it's imminent go-li

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Or at the very least choose one spelling and stick with it! http://bigfatfrog67.me On 01/12/2013 18:51, Richard Mann wrote: At least they could have the grace to spell licence correctly. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Brian Prangle > wrote: +1 for a close but

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

At least they could have the grace to spell licence correctly. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: > +1 for a close button. That box just screams at me to be closed - my > brain wants to see what's behind it! Not sure what communication went out > about this notifying the com

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

But Brian, why aren't you logged in? It's not there then. Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 01/12/2013 18:45, Brian Prangle wrote: +1 for a close button. That box just screams at me to be closed - my brain wants to see what's behind it! Not sure what communication went out about this notif

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

I think you've just summed up the real power of Open Data, specifically Open Map Data. If you don't like how it is rendered then choose another renderer or render the data yourself. So cool! Everyone's happy. Try viewing Google's or Microsoft's data some other way if you don't like their ren

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

+1 for a close button. That box just screams at me to be closed - my brain wants to see what's behind it! Not sure what communication went out about this notifying the community of the date of implementation - I certainly wasn't aware of anything. I saw lots of discussion about the design but the

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Just went on the mobile website from my Nexus phone and it looks much better than before, really can't see a problem with the mobile version of the new osm. At the same time, you can never, ever, please everybody... Also, I don't think it wise to talk about "turning others away" when not many other

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

> > In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, > it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non Now it has gone live, I have to say that it is a disaster and likely to turn me and others from OSM. We take all this trouble to create a bea