Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Rob Nickerson
> so something should be defined and documented I agree with my fellow mappers. There is no need to add this to the UK tagging guideline. > motorways indicated by the international chop sticks sign That is brilliant. I have to find a way to use that expression somewhere :-) P.S. I wish other

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Philip Barnes
By not implicitly signed I mean there is no number on a NSL sign, the limit changes between 60/70 when roads change between single and dual carriageways and there is no explicit 70 sign on motorways. Phil (trigpoint) On 30 April 2018 20:31:11 BST, Adam Snape wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Adam Snape
Also, I don't think we need a special tagging scheme just because each individual road is not signed. We don't do so for analogous restrictions such weight, width or access restrictions which are generally only signed when entering or leaving the zone where the restriction applies. Adam On 30

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Adam Snape
I'm not sure I'd call any of the national speed limits implicit. All are explicit in that they are (or should be) physically signed at least where the limit changes, so they are verifiable rather than merely implied. The only practical difference is whether small repeater signs are required to

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Philip Barnes
For practical purposes the only non-implicitly signed speed limits are national speed limits, (start indicated by black diagonal on white) and motorways indicated by the international chop sticks sign. Phil (trigpoint) On 30 April 2018 19:54:37 BST, Tobias Zwick wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Philip Barnes
Whilst in theory there is an implicit 30mph when street lights are present and there are no repeater signs indicating a higher limit then the speed limit is 30 mph. It has nothing to do with urban, the same rule will apply on lit rural roads. These days it is complicated by 20mph limits which

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Tobias Zwick
I apologize for the misunderstanding, this is about implicit speed limits when there is *no sign* that ordains another speed limit, of course. Cheers Tobias On 30/04/2018 20:50, Brian Prangle wrote: > You can't make that assumption of an implicit 30mph limit. Major roads > in in built up areas

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Brian Prangle
You can't make that assumption of an implicit 30mph limit. Major roads in in built up areas can be 40 mph and increasingly speed limits are being reduced to 20mph in built up areas Regards Brian On 30 April 2018 at 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Hi there > > On tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Colin Smale
The UK definition of a "built-up area" for traffic purposes is still occasionally subject to discussions [1] In 99.9% of the cases the speed limit will be signed explicitly anyway. --colin [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Built-up_area_(Highway_Code)#Legal_definition On 2018-04-30 19:41,

[Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-04-30 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hi there On tagging implicit speed limits in the United Kingdom, the wiki lists the following values [1] for "maxspeed:type": GB:nsl_single (=60 mph), GB:nsl_dual (=70 mph) and GB:motorway (=70 mph) I understand that the current legislation defines a road with road-lighting as a built-up area