Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
Hi Colin, Dependent and doubly dependent localities are technical terms and without having access to PAF most mappers wouldn't know which one to use. And if they did, that could be considered a copyright infringement. Also, it just doesn't sound right. No one asks "which dependent locality do y

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
Perhaps OSM UK could step in and endorse address tagging practices once a consensus is reached? In the end it does not matter what tag names we use as long as the whole scheme is consistent and rich enough to describe common use cases. So far, I see addr:city=posttown is a popular solution, wh

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Andrezej, I would oppose addr:village for the Dependent Locality as it invites incorrect usage. There is no reason to overload an existing tag with a different meaning to its current usage. In the UK, a village is not simply a neat subdivision of a town. I think addr:locality and addr:sublocali

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
On 28 January 2019 06:17:04 GMT+08:00, David Woolley wrote: >On 27/01/2019 21:21, Colin Smale wrote: >> Organisation Organisation Name 60 n/a >> Department Name 60 n/a >> Premises Sub Building Name 30 > >addr:unit What about

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Colin Smale
David, thanks for offering some updates. By the way, I am not asking questions because I personally want the answers - I am fully aware of how these things work. And because of that, and because OSM tries to model reality, I believe we need some kind of anchor-point for our thinking in order to c

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
At low level (commercial areas, academic campuses, hospitals) that's not really the case. They are not as formalised as admin areas. Best wishes, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 05:46:23 GMT+08:00, Gareth L wrote: >I’d hope these would inherit from whatever the address is enclosed in. > >On 27 Jan

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
Hi Colin, This is broadly in line with Robert's proposals. However, it raises questions about: 1. tagging "dependent localities" - they can be towns or villages. Are you happy with addr:town, addr:village for this purpose? Reaching consensus on that would be a major step forward. 2. Tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread David Woolley
On 27/01/2019 21:21, Colin Smale wrote: OrganisationOrganisation Name 60 n/a Department Name 60 n/a PremisesSub Building Name 30 addr:unit Building Name 50 addr:housename Building Number 4

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Gareth L
I’d hope these would inherit from whatever the address is enclosed in. On 27 Jan 2019, at 21:22, Colin Smale mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: Assuming the post code is seen in OSM as a way of addressing post (as opposed to a geographic subdivision or an indication of location) then I sugg

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Colin Smale
Assuming the post code is seen in OSM as a way of addressing post (as opposed to a geographic subdivision or an indication of location) then I suggest following Royal Mail's address structure, which can be seen in the description of the Postcode Address File on Wikipedia [1]. If we cannot map a ful

[Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
Hi, When working on post codes in East Anglia I realised the current address tagging scheme is insufficient for even fairly basic scenarios. I have already discussed the issues with some of the most experienced mappers and like to bring these issues to your attention. Robert has summarised his

Re: [Talk-GB] Dropped or lowered kerbs

2019-01-27 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi Andy, It somewhat depends on what you are trying to map. The kerb=* tag on the wiki page you linked to is for when mapping a crossing. As shown on the second example on the page. you would create a way that runs perpendicular to the highway at the point where a footpath (or cyclepath) crosses

[Talk-GB] Dropped or lowered kerbs

2019-01-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've been reading the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:kerb and I'm no wiser on how to map a dropped (or "lowered") kerb. I'm looking at a road which is mapped as a single way, without separate pavements. JOSM wants to add "barrier=kerb", but that would surely imply a barri

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

2019-01-27 Thread Mike Baggaley
You could also add government=transportation to office=government Regards, Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

2019-01-27 Thread Brian Prangle
You might want to add operator=DVSA. I tag them like Tony too On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 23:04, Silent Spike wrote: > Thanks Tony, as the only reply here so far I've followed your approach. > > Could be valuable in future to develop a tagging scheme for these centres > as they each do testing for di

[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #444 2019-01-15-2019-01-21

2019-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 444, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/11389/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages