Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Warin
On 16/6/20 7:43 am, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-06-15 23:14, barry b wrote: Hi Folks, I made the below changes to rockall. snip I don't know the exact procedure here. I feel i didn't do it right. Don't worry too much about "not doing it right", just about everybody here has "been there done

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-06-15 23:14, barry b wrote: > Hi Folks, I made the below changes to rockall. Thanks for engaging! > The changes i've made are > 1) Changed Rockall from Island to Rock > 2) Removed the Administration boundary > > 1) Rockall is not a island. You could debate its a rock or islet but

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Russ Garrett
I'm still a bit confused about this, because the circle rendered around Rockall on OpenStreetMap is the 12nm limit of territorial waters, not the 200nm EEZ. We don't render the EEZ on OpenStreetMap, but as you point out, it is not in dispute that Rockall does not extend the UK's EEZ. So I'm a bit

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread barry b
Hi Folks, I made the below changes to rockall. The changes i've made are 1) Changed Rockall from Island to Rock 2) Removed the Administration boundary 1) Rockall is not a island. You could debate its a rock or islet but it cant sustain human life. References: 1) Wikipedia calls it a islet 2

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Colin Smale
I just pointed the user concerned to the signup page to this mailing list, so he should be here soon! Further to my earlier message I will not make any changes to Rockall until we have had the discussion. Colin___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-06-15 15:36, Mark Goodge wrote: > I'd just revert it. I'll give them until tomorrow to see if there is any further engagement. Otherwise I will fix it up as place=islet and resurrecting the coastline and admin boundaries. Colin___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Mark Goodge
On 15/06/2020 10:23, Colin Smale wrote: A new mapper has changed the status of Rockall, removing it from the UK admin boundaries. As I understand it Rockall is accepted as UK territory although it can't be used as a baseline to extend the EEZ. I contacted the mapper with a changeset comment

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread nathan case
I also note that the editor changed Rockall from “island” to “bare rock”, and that Colin has question this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624262 For what it’s worth, I suggest the correct tag for Rockall is “islet”: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dislet This is

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Andy Townsend
In situations like this I'd invite the new mapper to discuss things more widely (which Colin has already done on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624359 ) and then revert the changes pending any discussion here. The new mapper is already aware of the changeset discussion (they've

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Gareth L
Probably? I am not familiar with the disputed territories process for Osm. It’s a weird one as only the U.K. has claimed sovereignty. Others don’t accept the claim, but also haven’t made a sovereignty claim themselves. So at the moment, the U.K. is the administrator - and there is an absence of

[Talk-GB] Rockall

2020-06-15 Thread Colin Smale
A new mapper has changed the status of Rockall, removing it from the UK admin boundaries. As I understand it Rockall is accepted as UK territory although it can't be used as a baseline to extend the EEZ. I contacted the mapper with a changeset comment and their motivation is based on "fixing the