Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Thread Andrzej
Hi Dave, CPO centroids are in fact _not_ centroids at all. The are delivery points nearest to the centroid. I've been using them a lot and they are indeed very accurate in identifying buildings or entrances. To be fair, some postcodes are given approximate coordinates (this usually happens on

Re: [Talk-GB] postcode mapping (was Re: Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only))

2019-07-30 Thread Andrzej
Only postbox reference numbers, which are somewhat related to local postcodes (share the first few characters). It may still be useful to add such quest to StreetComplete. Retail businesses and amenities tend to advertise their full addresses, including a postcode but there is no rule to that.

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-30 Thread Andrzej
On 19 July 2019 17:58:58 CEST, Devonshire wrote: > >I know that Robert is sincere in his views but the classic "don't add >data to OSM because it will spoil someone else's enjoyment" always >makes me chuckle. In most parts of the country the idea that the >current cohort of mappers can add accur

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Andrzej
On 19 July 2019 09:58:52 BST, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" wrote: > >I thus have to object not just to the new proposal but also any >continuation of the previous work to add single postcodes to buildings >under the centroid. Thank you for your opinion, Robert. I will suspend adding postcod

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
These should reasonably easy to remove from the dataset, easier than checking for existing addresses. Thanks for the suggestion. Best regards, ndrw6 On 17 July 2019 18:09:39 BST, David Woolley wrote: >On 16/07/2019 22:19, ndrw6 wrote: >> 3. Use a collation plugin to collate both datasets with

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
I will try to avoid adding postcodes in these cases. Basically, narrow down the list of postcodes to add to these that don't have any neighbouring objects with addr: tags. Best regards, ndrw6 On 17 July 2019 12:10:32 BST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >17 Jul 2019, 12:58 by nd...@redhazel.co.uk: >

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
I haven't seen such guidelines for the UK myself. In general people prefer having address tags on buildings. Separate address points are more of a stop gap solution until building shapes are sufficiently accurate. An exception is addresses on entrances, which some mappers seem to prefer. I can

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-30 Thread Andrzej
le tagging schemes so reaching a consensus may be impossible. How about tagging localities as addr:locality|sublocality _and_ addr:locality|sublocality:type=city|town|suburb|village|hamlet|campus, so they can be added separately and at different times? Best regards, Andrzej  On 28 January 2019 04

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-28 Thread Andrzej
ngly about their home towns. Best regards, Andrzej On 29 January 2019 00:08:11 GMT+08:00, Will Phillips wrote: > >> Having said that, I still don't understand the objections to >addr:town >> and addr:village. Can anyone come up with an example of an address >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-28 Thread Andrzej
RM calls "dependent thoroughfares". For these I would simply use addr:place, which can already be combined with addr:housename and addr:housenumber. Alternatively we could make a new tag like addr:campus. Best regards, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 20:36:24 GMT+08:00, Colin Smale wrot

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
d. For this reason I suggested using addr:place as a dependent thoroughfare.This would only require allowing both street and place to be defined together. Best regards, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 07:05:40 GMT+08:00, Colin Smale wrote: >Hi Andrezej, > >I would oppose addr:village for the Dep

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
ether, addr:place could be used as "dependent thoroughfare" with no(?) other changes. Best wishes, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 06:48:11 GMT+08:00, Colin Smale wrote: >David, thanks for offering some updates. > >By the way, I am not asking questions because I personally want the >

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
the postcode. It should still be possible to encode a typical full address with tags. Sometimes people will want extract the full address from OSM, sometimes they will want to search for a part of it. Even if someone is searching for a house number

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
At low level (commercial areas, academic campuses, hospitals) that's not really the case. They are not as formalised as admin areas. Best wishes, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 05:46:23 GMT+08:00, Gareth L wrote: >I’d hope these would inherit from whatever the address is enclosed in. >

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
it is associated with a business that has a known location but uses PO Box as its address? Best wishes, Andrzej On 28 January 2019 05:21:36 GMT+08:00, Colin Smale wrote: >Assuming the post code is seen in OSM as a way of addressing post (as >opposed to a geographic subdivision or an indic

[Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-27 Thread Andrzej
Hi, When working on post codes in East Anglia I realised the current address tagging scheme is insufficient for even fairly basic scenarios. I have already discussed the issues with some of the most experienced mappers and like to bring these issues to your attention. Robert has summarised his