Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-16 Thread Ed Loach
: Talk-GB Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available Thanks. Have you had any trouble getting the tiles to load in JOSM? When I tried I keep getting error messages popping up which made it unusable. JOSM does seem to suffer from bugs these days (maybe I

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-15 Thread Rob Nickerson
ne > > > > Ed > > > > *From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 14 October 2015 18:04 > *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed > now available > > > > Ed, > > Is it

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-15 Thread Ed Loach
Done Ed From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 October 2015 18:04 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available Ed, Is it possible to add Bing aerial as a layer - it would be interesting to

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-14 Thread Rob Nickerson
Ed, Is it possible to add Bing aerial as a layer - it would be interesting to see how it compares for tracing. I'll check it out in JOSM but others may like it on the website. Cheers, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-14 Thread Curon Davies
2015-09-29 20:47 GMT+01:00 Bogus Zaba : > > Anybody know if Wales data also available? I've written to Natural > Resources Wales to ask, but somebody knowledgeable on the list might > reply quicker. Last week I noticed an announcement on this: "We will change LIDAR from licensed data to open data

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-14 Thread Ed Loach
Some time ago Chris wrote: > In the blog article > (http://chris-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/more-lidar-goodness.html) I > explain a bit about the difference between DSM and DTM. DSM > does include > building outlines. I've processed a small part of the data to see them. > Here's an example of a TI

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-29 Thread Bogus Zaba
On 22/09/15 10:34, Tim Waters wrote: > Hello, > > back in June we had a thread announcing that this LIDAR data was due > to be released. Well some of it has. > > https://environmentagency.blog.gov.uk/2015/09/18/laser-surveys-light-up-open-data/ > > http://environment.data.gov.uk/ds/survey#/ > > I t

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Hill
On 28/09/15 16:14, Phil Endecott wrote: Chris Hill wrote: I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the Environment Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible. I loaded the EA data into a database and found all the height points within the polygon of an existing building outline. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-28 Thread Phil Endecott
Chris Hill wrote: I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the Environment Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible. I loaded the EA data into a database and found all the height points within the polygon of an existing building outline. The highest value is the height of the build

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-28 Thread Phil Endecott
Chris Hill write: On 24/09/15 18:41, Phil Endecott wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Suitably processed this could provide a source of building outlines. Yes, I think it could be very useful for that. I've had a play and rather than doing shaded relief I've just converted the height directly into a g

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-26 Thread Chris Hill
Hi Tony, As OS OpenMap is vector data, finding the height for any building outline would be similar to using OSM building outlines. Using the DTM data would also give the base height AMSL of the building. I have used DEM data in Blender (https://www.blender.org/) to create a landscape to matc

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-26 Thread tony wroblewski
Hi Chris Would it be possible to somehow use this data with the building outlines from OS OpenMap?. I know that data is somewhat simplified/generalised, but maybe combined together we could get an idea of how the simplified shapes from OS OpenData are terraced and even get their heights. I'm not t

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-25 Thread Rob Nickerson
Sounds good Chris. No problems with imports from me (assuming the data passes reasonable* quality assurance). I do feel that the concerns over imports are preventing OSM from properly innovating. This is a good example of dataset and an innovative approach that has been made available to us. It wo

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-25 Thread Chris Hill
I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the Environment Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible. I loaded the EA data into a database and found all the height points within the polygon of an existing building outline. The highest value is the height of the building. From that I co

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Rob Nickerson
>On 24/09/2015 18:41, Phil Endecott wrote: >> You could easily trace building outlines from this > >This looks excellent, but being inherently lazy, is there any software >to convert what I assume are pixels outlines into vectors? > >It would save a *lot* of tracing. (Caveat: I'm not advocating ma

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/09/15 21:28, Dave F. wrote: >> You could easily trace building outlines from this > > This looks excellent, but being inherently lazy, is there any software > to convert what I assume are pixels outlines into vectors? > > It would save a *lot* of tracing. (Caveat: I'm not advocating mass i

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Dave F.
On 24/09/2015 18:41, Phil Endecott wrote: You could easily trace building outlines from this This looks excellent, but being inherently lazy, is there any software to convert what I assume are pixels outlines into vectors? It would save a *lot* of tracing. (Caveat: I'm not advocating mass i

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 06:41:23PM +0100, Phil Endecott wrote: > > How would people find this for tracing compared to photo imagery? It looks excellent, at least at first glance. Thanks so much for all the work. ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@o

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Andy Robinson
2015 18:41 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available Chris Hill wrote: > Suitably processed this could provide a source of building outlines. Yes, I think it could be very useful for that. I've had a play and rat

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Hill
On 24/09/15 18:41, Phil Endecott wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Suitably processed this could provide a source of building outlines. Yes, I think it could be very useful for that. I've had a play and rather than doing shaded relief I've just converted the height directly into a grey shade. I've th

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-24 Thread Phil Endecott
Chris Hill wrote: Suitably processed this could provide a source of building outlines. Yes, I think it could be very useful for that. I've had a play and rather than doing shaded relief I've just converted the height directly into a grey shade. I've then applied ImageMagick's edge detection f

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Phil Endecott
Chris Hill wrote: DSM does include building outlines. I've processed a small part of the data to see them. Here's an example of a TIFF of DSM data with the building outlines: http://raggedred.net/shared/ta0230.tif Thanks Chris, that's quite impressive. My interest is in using this as a bette

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
(I'll try again ... ) It might well do that. I'll attempt to compare two areas tomorrow and see how easy it is get any height data out. As it happens, one of the areas covered by the EA data that I have worked on is a large village (Cottingham) which has its buildings all traced out, so I migh

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
On 23/09/15 20:36, Tim Waters wrote: Could subtracting between the DSM and DTM where we have buildings already in OSM give the height of the buildings? On 23 September 2015 at 15:08, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/09/15 14:18, Phil Endecott wrote: Has anyone reviewed how useful this LIDAR data wou

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Tim Waters
Could subtracting between the DSM and DTM where we have buildings already in OSM give the height of the buildings? On 23 September 2015 at 15:08, Chris Hill wrote: > On 23/09/15 14:18, Phil Endecott wrote: >> >> Has anyone reviewed how useful this LIDAR data would be for 3D city >> mapping? >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
On 23/09/15 14:18, Phil Endecott wrote: Has anyone reviewed how useful this LIDAR data would be for 3D city mapping? Chris Hill wrote: The slippy map with relief tiles made from the data and optionally contours also made from the data is here: http://relief.raggedred.net. Thanks Chris. I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-23 Thread Phil Endecott
Has anyone reviewed how useful this LIDAR data would be for 3D city mapping? Chris Hill wrote: The slippy map with relief tiles made from the data and optionally contours also made from the data is here: http://relief.raggedred.net. Thanks Chris. I've just been looking at Hull city centre.

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-22 Thread SK53
I've had a look at the LIDAR data for Attenborough NR and also the RSBP Medmerry reserve (in the Hundred of Manhood near Selsey). I havent had a full play but so far it hasnt picked up a small elevation difference which affects the hydrology of Attenborough (thanks to Sandy Aitken, Volunteer Reserv

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Hill
Thanks for the plug Tim :-) The slippy map with relief tiles made from the data and optionally contours also made from the data is here: http://relief.raggedred.net. This covers a mostly very flat area, yet significant details are visible. It does show a number of places where ditches and othe

Re: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-22 Thread Tim Waters
Ahh correction, there *is* data at 25cm and 50cm in some areas (where flooding is a threat) but it looks as if the 1m and 2m covers the country. Chris has written a post here also: http://chris-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/more-lidar-goodness.html so we're already playing with it. Tim On 22 Septem

[Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-09-22 Thread Tim Waters
Hello, back in June we had a thread announcing that this LIDAR data was due to be released. Well some of it has. https://environmentagency.blog.gov.uk/2015/09/18/laser-surveys-light-up-open-data/ http://environment.data.gov.uk/ds/survey#/ I think it's just for England, and appears to be 1m and