Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-15 Thread SK53
Well as I said, some of the points were covered. The difference in scale is appreciated, although there is obvious scope for mappers to enrich open tree data significantly. There other major difference is one will typically about conflation and the other about importing (leaving aside planned upda

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2017 at 12:38, SK53 wrote: > Failure to directly contact this list at the same time as imports is > extremely discourteous. This supposes that the data importer/ donor is are of this list. > Changing of source tag is unacceptable for mapper surveyed locations. The *addition* of a sou

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-15 Thread SK53
At the risk of being completely behind what has already been posted (as some of you know I have been preoccupied with other things), some quick points: - Failure to directly contact this list at the same time as imports is extremely discourteous. Particularly so as many UK/GB mappers will no

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 13.05.2017 17:17, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 12 May 2017 at 10:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >>> 1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? >> >> It's not OSM-UK that proposes this import > > Nor is it OSM-UK who are importing tree data. True, let me rephrase: "It isn't director

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 May 2017 at 10:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> 1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? > > It's not OSM-UK that proposes this import Nor is it OSM-UK who are importing tree data. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-12 Thread Andrew Hain
: 12 May 2017 08:58:06 To: talk-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations On 11 May 2017 at 23:25, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Link to discussion so far on imports@: > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-May/004956.html > >> My concern would b

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-12 Thread Dave F
Apologies to Brian, who's clearly just passing on the message. On 12/05/2017 00:58, Dave F wrote: 1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? 2. What does ref_unused_tags.name refer to? 3. Are there any out of date stations that need removing/changing to another operator? DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Dave, On 12.05.2017 01:58, Dave F wrote: > 1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? It's not OSM-UK that proposes this import; Brian has only pointed out that there's a discussion going on. The import has been proposed by commercial entities NavAds (who publicize store locations for

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-12 Thread Jez Nicholson
for background info: a couple of links about Navads and what they do for Shell (and other brands) http://www.prweb.com/releases/navads/shell/prweb13779126.htm and https://navads.eu/businesslistings/ It would be interesting for OSM[UK] to be an official recipient of up-to-date, clean data if indeed

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 11 May 2017 at 23:25, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Link to discussion so far on imports@: > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-May/004956.html > >> My concern would be from where to they get their geocoding. Most >> businesses, and particularly chain businesses, tend to use postc

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-11 Thread Dave F
1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? 2. What does ref_unused_tags.name refer to? 3. Are there any out of date stations that need removing/changing to another operator? DaveF On 11/05/2017 21:36, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone There is a proposal for this import currentl

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-11 Thread Neil Matthews
Also need to check for "shop=convenience / name=Shell" in the vicinity -- not necessarily just "amenity=fuel" Neil On 11/05/2017 22:47, David Woolley wrote: On 11/05/17 21:36, Brian Prangle wrote: There is a proposal for this import currently under discussion on the talk import mailing list a

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/11/2017 11:47 PM, David Woolley wrote: > On 11/05/17 21:36, Brian Prangle wrote: >> There is a proposal for this import currently under discussion on the >> talk import mailing list and the OSMUK chapter has asked the proposer >> that it be discussed on the talk GB mailing list Link to

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-11 Thread David Woolley
On 11/05/17 21:36, Brian Prangle wrote: There is a proposal for this import currently under discussion on the talk import mailing list and the OSMUK chapter has asked the proposer that it be discussed on the talk GB mailing list My concern would be from where to they get their geocoding. Most

[Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

2017-05-11 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone There is a proposal for this import currently under discussion on the talk import mailing list and the OSMUK chapter has asked the proposer that it be discussed on the talk GB mailing list Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@open