Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, Cheers for clarifying the 'segregated' issue. I hadn't considered the benefit of having a positive surface tag even where it matches the default, so I'll start doing that when I map. Kind regards, Adam On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 15:20 Martin - CycleStreets, < list-osm-talk...@cyclestreets.net>

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Martin - CycleStreets
Mike Baggaley wrote: There should be no need for a tag to indicate whether a cycleway is separated from the road, as if the cycleway is part of the road it should not be tagged as highway=cycleway at all - it should be tagged as highway=(something else) + cycleway=*. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Martin - CycleStreets
On Tue, 14 Jul 2020, Adam Snape wrote: I have utmost respect for cyclestreets but that tagging guidance does seem garbled at points  Apologies; I think I was very tired when I wrote it. It was mainly intended as a starting point, to set out the ideal case of having those metadata tags

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Mike Baggaley
>> this point if we're actually advocating the hitherto undocumented usage of >> segregated=yes to mean 'cycleway is separate from main carriageway' because >> I suspect I'm not the only one whose been using it as per the wiki to show >> where bicycles and pedestrians have their own designated

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
>On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 22:07, ael > wrote: >On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:30:00PM >+0100, >Adam Snape wrote: >> >> this point if we're actually advocating the hitherto undocumented  usage of >> segregated=yes to mean 'cycleway is separate from main carriageway' because >> I suspect I'm not the

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Thread ael
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:30:00PM +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > > this point if we're actually advocating the hitherto undocumented usage of > segregated=yes to mean 'cycleway is separate from main carriageway' because > I suspect I'm not the only one whose been using it as per the wiki to show >

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Thread Adam Snape
I'm not saying it's terrible but as you note it's not exactly an optimum example of good mapping. Just as with roads, I tend to view cycleway surface tags as distinctly optional/low priority where they confirm to the default of being asphalt and of great importance where they deviate from that

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Thread Gareth L
I do have to say that surface info is very useful. A lot of cycleways have gravel sections and that can be no fun on, say, a Brompton bike with 16” wheels. Much like pavements, I’d start my focus on the details which are not what you might expect, like where a road doesn’t have a pedestrian

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Thread Adam Snape
Quite agree, whilst harmless oneway=no seems a bit OTT, as tbh does marking the surface on every single asphalt cycleway... I have utmost respect for cyclestreets but that tagging guidance does seem garbled at points Since when has the segregated=yes/no tag on a cycleway referred to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
"Is it one-way? oneway=yes / oneway=no" is it really a good idea to always include oneway=no? I would consider it as kind of pointless to require oneway tag to be always present I added some advertisement for StreetComplete (I implemented for example bicycle_parking quests as part of my plan for

[Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-13 Thread Gareth L
Hello, The UK quarterly project for Q3 2020 has been selected as Cycle infrastructure. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q3_Project:_Cycling_Infrastructure Another topical one with cycling having increased take up as people have avoided public transport or took advantage of the (for