Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 17 September 2013 09:15, SK53 wrote: > Just a general point about shops. There is a perfectly good OPEN data source > containing address (& postcode centroid as lat/lon) available for all food > outlets covering most UK local authorities. Aren't the postcode centroids subject to the Post Offic

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 17 September 2013 09:01, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: s. > > Unfortunately, CodePoint Open is the one dataset in the OS OpenData > collection that hasn't been cleared for use in OSM. See > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2013-July/015028.html > Fortunately I haven't us

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread SK53
Just a general point about shops. There is a perfectly good OPEN data source containing address (& postcode centroid as lat/lon) available for all food outlets covering most UK local authorities. This is the Food Standards Agency's Food Hygiene Rating Scheme

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 17 September 2013 08:38, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: > However, basic postcode centre locations are part of the OS OpenData releases. Unfortunately, CodePoint Open is the one dataset in the OS OpenData collection that hasn't been cleared for use in OSM. See https://lists.openstreetmap.org/piperm

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 16 September 2013 19:18, David Earl wrote: > On 16/09/2013 17:35, Adam Hoyle wrote: >> >> On 16 Sep 2013, at 16:14, Andy Allan wrote: >>> > Almost all retail sites will claim blanket copyright in every page of their > websites. Just to take one at random, I went to http://www.boots.com/ . See

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 16 September 2013 16:14, Andy Allan wrote: > On 16 September 2013 14:18, Adam Hoyle wrote: > >> If there is no license on their website regarding the information, then >> shouldn't it be considered public domain? > > Err, no. That's not how the law works - either on copyright or on > database

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-16 Thread David Earl
On 16/09/2013 17:35, Adam Hoyle wrote: On 16 Sep 2013, at 16:14, Andy Allan wrote: Err, no. That's not how the law works - either on copyright or on database rights. Lol, good point - perhaps I should ask if any of them can attribute a license to the locations on their sites - what would be t

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-16 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 16 Sep 2013, at 16:14, Andy Allan wrote: > On 16 September 2013 14:18, Adam Hoyle wrote: > >> If there is no license on their website regarding the information, then >> shouldn't it be considered public domain? > > Err, no. That's not how the law works - either on copyright or on > databa

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-16 Thread Andy Allan
On 16 September 2013 14:18, Adam Hoyle wrote: > If there is no license on their website regarding the information, then > shouldn't it be considered public domain? Err, no. That's not how the law works - either on copyright or on database rights. Cheers, Andy _

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-16 Thread Adam Hoyle
Hi OpenStreetmap HADW, I've worked with a number of retailers on digital projects, usually involving some-kind of store locator and I'm certain they would encourage anything that points more customers to their stores, especially if it requires no additional resources / cost on their side. If th

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-15 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 15 September 2013 22:24, Dave F. wrote: > On 15/09/2013 21:41, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: >> >> I'm pretty sure that store locators pages on chain store web sites are >> not safe sources, but can someone confirm this. > > > What do mean by "safe"? Inaccurate? Unlawful? Likely to be an infringem

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-15 Thread Dave F.
On 15/09/2013 21:41, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: I'm pretty sure that store locators pages on chain store web sites are not safe sources, but can someone confirm this. What do mean by "safe"? Inaccurate? Unlawful? There's nothing really wrong with the closed polygon that can't be fixed by remov

[Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-15 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
I'm pretty sure that store locators pages on chain store web sites are not safe sources, but can someone confirm this. I've just come across a, recently added feature, purporting to be an Asda supermarket building, way 237818118. As its only purported source it quotes the URL of the store locator