[Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-07 Thread Tom Chance
I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas near me in the past fortnight: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17505646 Could this be a problem with the iD editor? Has anyone else noticed it? Tom -- http

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-07 Thread Lester Caine
Tom Chance wrote: I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas near me in the past fortnight: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17505646 Could this be a problem with the iD editor? Has anyone else notice

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Churchley
I am very new to OSM (2 weeks!) and I have now switched to JOSM and I use that exclusively now as it is SOOO much better. Having said that, deleting stuff by accident is not particular to iD. I have deleted by accident with JOSM by having something selected which I am not aware of. Fortunately I di

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-08 Thread Tom Chance
Here's another one, this editor really ought to be fixed or removed: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17655245 I tried using the JOSM Revert plugin, but it just downloaded the nodes without the way. Tom On 8 September 2013 07:02, Paul Churchley wrote: > I am very new to OSM (2 w

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-09 Thread Andrew
Tom Chance writes: > Here's another one, this editor really ought to be fixed or removed:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17655245 > I tried using the JOSM Revert plugin, but it just downloaded the nodes without the way. > Tom Were the landuse areas attached to roads? -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 10 Sep 2013, at 07:05, Andrew wrote: > Tom Chance writes: > > >> Here's another one, this editor really ought to be fixed or > removed:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17655245 >> I tried using the JOSM Revert plugin, but it just downloaded the nodes > without the way. >> Tom

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Lester Caine
Shaun McDonald wrote: >Were the landuse areas attached to roads? It’s rather easy in iD to click the middle of an area and select the area. It's the way it works ... if you click and there is nothing close, then it picks up an area which may well be outside the area you are looking at ... It

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Ed Loach
Lester wrote: > It would be MUCH safer if you had to pick the boundary to select it! But much harder to use for areas that share the boundary ways with an adjacent area. You'd have to resort to the / stuff that Potlatch uses or middle-click for JOSM (or whatever). New mappers are likely to make

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Paul Churchley
In my opinion you should always have to click the boundary. If not then it is impossible to determine what you have selected. What if there are many areas overlapping and you click inside the overlapped area? How could it determine which of the areas you want to select? On 10 September 2013 09:31

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Tom Chance
On 10 September 2013 09:56, Ed Loach wrote: > New mappers are likely to make mistakes whatever editing software > they use. That's true. What I noticed with these landuse areas is: (a) the beginnings of a pattern, suggesting a defect in the software (b) that these changes are a real pain to u

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Tom Chance wrote: (b) that these changes are a real pain to undo, especially when the accidental deletion is part of a large and otherwise valid changeset, because residential landuse areas often follow wiggly routes populated with a lot of other features that one can accidentally click on, s

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Lester Caine
Ed Loach wrote: It would be MUCH safer if you had to pick the boundary to select it! But much harder to use for areas that share the boundary ways with an adjacent area. You'd have to resort to the / stuff that Potlatch uses or middle-click for JOSM (or whatever). I think all I am asking for

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-10 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 10 September 2013 13:20, Tom Chance wrote: > > That's true. What I noticed with these landuse areas is: > > (a) the beginnings of a pattern, suggesting a defect in the software I gave iD a try recently, and went back to using Potlatch pretty quickly afterwards. One of the main reasons what tha

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-14 Thread SomeoneElse
Tom Chance wrote: Here's another one, this editor really ought to be fixed or removed: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17655245 I tried using the JOSM Revert plugin, but it just downloaded the nodes without the way. I messaged this user offering to help fix back on 4/9 after so

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-14 Thread SomeoneElse
Tom Chance wrote: I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas near me in the past fortnight: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130 Presumably http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5019651 still needs to be restored? It should be doable with Potla

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-16 Thread Tom Chance
On 14 September 2013 11:38, SomeoneElse wrote: > Has anyone tried to contact the user concerned to help them? > I have had a conversation with one user (HLHJ) who accidentally deleted some landuse without realising she had done it! I always try to contact new users in my patch, especially where