On 2 October 2013 10:15, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 September 2013 08:12, Peter Miller
> wrote:
> > On 29 September 2013 10:05, Colin Smale wrote:
> >> How about saying that 70mph can only be valid on a way tagged as
> one-way?
> >
> > In a word
On 30 September 2013 08:12, Peter Miller wrote:
> On 29 September 2013 10:05, Colin Smale wrote:
>> How about saying that 70mph can only be valid on a way tagged as one-way?
>
> In a word, I believe the answer is 'no'. I say that because the legal
> definition of a dual-carriageway appears to be
On 29 September 2013 10:05, Colin Smale wrote:
> **
>
> Peter,
>
> I say this because the '70 mph' value for maxspeed can only be used case
> where a road is a dual-carriageway.
>
> What about link roads and slip roads? Sometimes they seem to go on for
> miles without an obvious "other carriagewa
Peter wrote:
> As such, it seems unreasonable to ask a new mapper to great a
situation requiring
> a court case for every ambiguous section of road in the country to
establish if they
> are dual carriageways or single carriageways. This is why I
suggest we use
> GB:national to indicate that the
Peter,
> I say this because the '70 mph' value for maxspeed can only be used case
> where a road is a dual-carriageway.
What about link roads and slip roads? Sometimes they seem to go on for
miles without an obvious "other carriageway". Yet the correct maxspeed
is often 70mph, is it not?
Ho
To attempt to summarise the situation:
- The maximum legal speed for any vehicle should be a number in maxspeed
following by " mph".
- There should also be information available to say if this speed is
defined as a number in a circle or a black and white sign
- There is also benefi
Peter,
After your first post on this, my initial thought was that you were
correct and the simpler tag you were proposing was enough. I started
following your proposal, but I've thought a little more & feel that the
more involved 'GB:nsl_single' type tag is actually needed & I'll be
going bac
Philip Barnes writes:
>
> Routers in my opinion, over use road classification and seen to assume
that trunk is some sort of expressway, which in most cases they aren't.
Primaries, B roads and tertiarys, many of which are declassified trunk are
just as quick, often quicker as they take a shorter
On 26 September 2013 12:59, Philip Barnes wrote:
> Vehicles to which other limits apply are usually driven by professionals
I'd wager that far more cars-towing-caravans are driven by amateurs
than professionals.
--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Routers cannot be expected to know the intricacies of every countrys spotted
limit legislation, it would therefore be wrong to remove the default
car/motorcycle speed limits.
Vehicles to which other limits apply are usually driven by professionals and
should therefore be using specialist tools,
The subject of UK speed limits and problems of mapping them has come up a
couple of times on these lists.
Firstly we have a problem because many users want a single numerical value
in the maxspeed tag, despite UK legislation having a range of speed limits
for road dependent on the physical nature
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Peter Miller wrote:
Are you saying that a road marked with a numeric sign of '60 mph' defines a
different legal maximum speed for some vehicle types
from a single carriageway road marked with a white sign and a black diagonal?
For example that a bus/coach/car+trailer/HGV le
Barry,
Are you saying that a road marked with a numeric sign of '60 mph' defines a
different legal maximum speed for some vehicle types from a single
carriageway road marked with a white sign and a black diagonal? For example
that a bus/coach/car+trailer/HGV less that 7.5 tonnes are only be able t
Richard Mann wrote:
IIRC a lot of those tags were added by Chriscf, without any local
surveying
I think that you're thinking about these:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/81529513/history
(a slightly different case)
Cheers,
Andy
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Richard Mann wrote:
So...on the basis that we should tag what is there, we see a white sign with a
black diagonal line on it then that is
what we should indicate. We do of course interpret that by putting what we
believe if the correct legal speed limit in
maxspeed. As such
IIRC a lot of those tags were added by Chriscf, without any local
surveying, and since the value was derived from the speed limit, there's
little added value in having separate maxspeed:type values. It's just
clutter. What matters to the data user is the maxspeed tag. The
maxspeed:type tag is proba
Hi Peter,
Thanks for replying here.
Peter Miller wrote:
So...on the basis that we should tag what is there, we see a white
sign with a black diagonal line on it then that is what we should
indicate. We do of course interpret that by putting what we believe if
the correct legal speed limit
Apologies for being slow to pick this one up. I was in private discussion
with Andy on this using OSM messaging which appeared to have come to a
conclusion. I now notice that it had moved to talk-gb.
For avoidance of doubt, all my edits have been fully manual.
Here is the explanation I gave to An
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 22:09 +0100, Andy Street wrote:
> I'd agree that maxspeed=national is insufficient as it is impossible
> to tell what speed you can do in a built up area.
National speed limits rarely apply in built up areas, other than
sometimes on faster feeder roads. The built up area limi
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 00:36:00 +0100
SomeoneElse wrote:
> I've noticed that locally a number of "GB:nsl_single", "GB:nsl_dual",
> and "GB:motorway" "maxspeed:type" values have been consolidated into
> "gb:national", so that that gone from nowhere to being the second
> most-used value:
>From a q
On 21 September 2013 00:36, SomeoneElse wrote:
> I've noticed that locally a number of "GB:nsl_single", "GB:nsl_dual", and
> "GB:motorway" "maxspeed:type" values have been consolidated into
> "gb:national", so that that gone from nowhere to being the second most-used
> value:
I don't recall there
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