Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-14 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2017-05-07 at 10:40 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > We want to update data from the import in the future, so this kind of > id is ok. That type of data cannot be relied upon for maintenance. As others have said these 'meaningless' tags will be removed by mappers. Objects will be copied

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-13 Thread David Woolley
On 13/05/17 10:48, David Woolley wrote: Also, maps are covered by database rights as well as copyright, for 15 years, and that is the real issue for geocoding, as it doesn't require any degree of creativity. I should have added that the fair dealing exemption for database rights explicitly

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-13 Thread David Woolley
On 13/05/17 08:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote: There is no "fair use" clause in UK copyright law, which is important not just because OSM is hosted in England & Wales but also because this is presumably a dataset in part containing materials with an E copyright holder. Also, maps are covered by

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-13 Thread Ilya Zverev
Thanks, Richard. The dataset in question definitely was not geocoded, but I will inform Navads about possible issues with geocoded datasets. Ilya 13.05.2017 10:08, Richard Fairhurst пишет: Ilya Zverev wrote: I think that would fall into the "fair use" clause. There is no "fair use" clause

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ilya Zverev wrote: > I think that would fall into the "fair use" clause. There is no "fair use" clause in UK copyright law, which is important not just because OSM is hosted in England & Wales but also because this is presumably a dataset in part containing materials with an E copyright holder.

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-12 Thread Andrew Black
> the "fair use" clause. Which specific legislation are you referring to. On 12 May 2017 17:10, "Ilya Zverev" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First, I was amazed at the response. Thanks for constructive feedback, > which I answer below, and no thanks for toxic responses, including

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-12 Thread Philip Barnes
A few issues I have spotted with the proposed data, Website: This should only be included if it refers to the actual object and should not be set to the shell.co.uk site. I have spotted some really silly street names, such as addr:street=A46/A6 A46/A6 Trunk Road. A filling station is often part

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 May 2017 at 17:08, Ilya Zverev wrote: > I am not sure if I should add the brand:wikidata=Q154950 tag, and for now > decided against that. I would encourage you to include this. > * "The general view seems to be against IDs like this": what has happened > with the

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

2017-05-12 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi everyone, First, I was amazed at the response. Thanks for constructive feedback, which I answer below, and no thanks for toxic responses, including asking for money (what money? We — as in maps.me — get none out of this) and imposing impossible restrictions (manually investigate context for