Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-03 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 02/09/2020 22:37, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
>> I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me.
>> Has the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision
>> splays/ stopping room to motorists?
>>
>> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7730673,-1.2396435,3a,56.4y,188.18h,85.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCSZk4LPVkVJecufviv4kzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>
>> I believe it's something to do with building regs. Existing posts have
>> to be one of the last items to be decommissioned, usually by newly
>> installed ones. Similar happened on one of the London CS ways, where
>> everyone got their knickers in a twist over it.
> 
> The fact that a neatly finished cycleway surface now has to be dug up so
> that the electric supply can be moved to a new location and the lamp
> pole moved is just another example of the complete waste of money many
> of these 'improvements' result in? Actually another question is just why
> the kerb to the footpath and the cycleway had to be moved at all? It no
> longer lines up with the next section anyway.
> 

I see this fairly often. Usually the local council who are responsible
for the highway lay the new cycle lane, but cannot move the lamp posts
as UK Power Networks(?) have to deal with them and the associated cabling.

In Greater London we also have bus stops "left" on cycle tracks at new
bus stop bypasses, until Transport for London's contractors can move them.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

I already answered your last point.
Good to see the give way is against the motor vehicles.

On 02/09/2020 22:37, Lester Caine wrote:

On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. 
Has the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better 
vision splays/ stopping room to motorists?


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7730673,-1.2396435,3a,56.4y,188.18h,85.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCSZk4LPVkVJecufviv4kzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 

I believe it's something to do with building regs. Existing posts 
have to be one of the last items to be decommissioned, usually by 
newly installed ones. Similar happened on one of the London CS ways, 
where everyone got their knickers in a twist over it.


The fact that a neatly finished cycleway surface now has to be dug up 
so that the electric supply can be moved to a new location and the 
lamp pole moved is just another example of the complete waste of money 
many of these 'improvements' result in? Actually another question is 
just why the kerb to the footpath and the cycleway had to be moved at 
all? It no longer lines up with the next section anyway.





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Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Lester Caine

On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has 
the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision 
splays/ stopping room to motorists?


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7730673,-1.2396435,3a,56.4y,188.18h,85.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCSZk4LPVkVJecufviv4kzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 

I believe it's something to do with building regs. Existing posts have 
to be one of the last items to be decommissioned, usually by newly 
installed ones. Similar happened on one of the London CS ways, where 
everyone got their knickers in a twist over it.


The fact that a neatly finished cycleway surface now has to be dug up so 
that the electric supply can be moved to a new location and the lamp 
pole moved is just another example of the complete waste of money many 
of these 'improvements' result in? Actually another question is just why 
the kerb to the footpath and the cycleway had to be moved at all? It no 
longer lines up with the next section anyway.


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Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has 
the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision 
splays/ stopping room to motorists?


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7730673,-1.2396435,3a,56.4y,188.18h,85.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCSZk4LPVkVJecufviv4kzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I believe it's something to do with building regs. Existing posts have 
to be one of the last items to be decommissioned, usually by newly 
installed ones. Similar happened on one of the London CS ways, where 
everyone got their knickers in a twist over it.


DaveF

On 02/09/2020 18:27, Lester Caine wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-53999106
One does wonder about the competence of builders at times?




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[Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Lester Caine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-53999106
One does wonder about the competence of builders at times?

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