Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 13:03, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In this case see right side of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12892 Wikidata uses dynamic page layout: what is on the right for you is below other components for me, for example. See also:

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
> From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the > source) mismatches between the subject of the Wikidata item and the > OSM object. People enter all sorts of bad data into OSM; that's not something specific to Wikidata IDs. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 20, 2019, 1:01 PM by marc.ge...@gmail.com: > AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the > feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used > to determine the name tag. > So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you > should

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> > you can find linked Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects > > in different languages. > > All of these are yet more good reasons to tag with Wikidata, rather > than Wikipedia. From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the source) mismatches between the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM wrote: > > > > > > > > How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia > > > > links in both languages is an important cultural consideration? > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM wrote: > > How is 'the proper' language decided? On

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 19:59, Colm Moore wrote: > Note that subject:wikipedia=* doesn't create a hyperlink like wikipedia=* > does. I'll hold off making changes for the moment. "tagging for the editor" is even less useful than "tagging for the render". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > Can you do this outside Ireland also? > Are you interested in Ireland, part of the Ireland or some other part of the > world? I'm in the UK (so please do that), but have a global

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:06, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Mar 19, 2019, 5:11 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > > This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs. "better"! > My favorite form is both wikipedia and wikidata tag, > wikipedia tag is human readable while wikidata is more stable >

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used to determine the name tag. So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you should use wikipedia=nl:Antwerpen (stad) This links to the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the page in the proper language. m. On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM wrote: > > How do you intend to

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread phil
How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia links in both languages is an important cultural consideration? Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org: > > > I'm not sure why one would