Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 13:03, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In this case see right side of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12892 Wikidata uses dynamic page layout: what is on the right for you is below other components for me, for example. See also:

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

> From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the > source) mismatches between the subject of the Wikidata item and the > OSM object. People enter all sorts of bad data into OSM; that's not something specific to Wikidata IDs. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 20, 2019, 1:01 PM by marc.ge...@gmail.com: > AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the > feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used > to determine the name tag. > So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you > should

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

> > you can find linked Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects > > in different languages. > > All of these are yet more good reasons to tag with Wikidata, rather > than Wikipedia. From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the source) mismatches between the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM wrote: > > > > > > > > How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia > > > > links in both languages is an important cultural consideration? > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM wrote: > > How is 'the proper' language decided? On

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 19:59, Colm Moore wrote: > Note that subject:wikipedia=* doesn't create a hyperlink like wikipedia=* > does. I'll hold off making changes for the moment. "tagging for the editor" is even less useful than "tagging for the render". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > Can you do this outside Ireland also? > Are you interested in Ireland, part of the Ireland or some other part of the > world? I'm in the UK (so please do that), but have a global

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:06, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Mar 19, 2019, 5:11 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > > > This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs. "better"! > My favorite form is both wikipedia and wikidata tag, > wikipedia tag is human readable while wikidata is more stable >

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used to determine the name tag. So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you should use wikipedia=nl:Antwerpen (stad) This links to the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the page in the proper language. m. On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM wrote: > > How do you intend to

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia links in both languages is an important cultural consideration? Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org: > > > I'm not sure why one would

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Hi, Note that subject:wikipedia=* doesn't create a hyperlink like wikipedia=* does. I'll hold off making changes for the moment. Compare these: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1350073645 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5167698292 Colm

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 19, 2019, 2:04 PM by colmmoor...@hotmail.com: > Hi, > > 1. If it makes things easier for people, then go for it. > > 2. I add the wikipedia tag to>  a variety of objects, not just geographical > entities. Why won't these be converted? > wikipedia tag is supposed to be specifically about

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org: > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever. > It went as follows: - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM data - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia and wikidata tags -

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 08:49, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while >> "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 19, 2019, 5:11 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs. > My favorite form is both wikipedia and wikidata tag, wikipedia tag is human readable while wikidata is more stable and allows easily follow article name changes.

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Mar 19, 2019, 6:13 PM by r...@technomancy.org: > On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in >> value. >> >> For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while >> "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in value. For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard. To expand, what do you mean here? What makes

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 13:04, Colm Moore wrote: > 2. I add the wikipedia tag to a variety of objects, not just geographical > entities. Please don't do that; at least not in the manner discussed below. > Politician's office > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6343961415 That object does not

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 08:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while > "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard. > Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will not > make the edit without a clear support so

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever. Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be? On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:49:08 +0100 (CET) From: Mateusz Konieczny Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links

[OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in value. For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard. Many old-style Wikipedia links remain and updating them to new style manually is boring,