Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

2017-11-21 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
On 21/11/17 14:29, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Steve, On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 04:34:18PM -0800, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: O> If the reltoolbox plug-in as as powerful as I am beginning to understand it may be (I appreciate the introduction, Gleb), and given my agreement that certain use cases

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

2017-11-20 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
A longer version (I'll try). I assume we all agree that overlapping or not reaching polygons where there is adjacency on the ground is wrong. So how can we properly express adjacency? The simple way is to run two polygons through the same subset of nodes. The advanced is to separate this

Re: [Talk-africa] [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-10 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
certainly is. You should talk to a psychologist - they would be able to explain why the demographics are what they are, but that's academic as far as I'm concerned. Best Regards Joel Holdsworth On September 4, 2017 4:45:27 AM MDT, Zoe Gardner <zoegardn...@gmail.com> wrote: >Dear OSM talk s

Re: [Talk-us] Gender in OpenStreetMap

2017-09-05 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
Could we have one eye colour, also? ;-) On 05/09/17 17:03, Ian Dees wrote: Hi all, Let's continue the conversation on this new thread, keeping in mind that we all need to keep our mind open and have productive and positive conversation. I reserve the right to add a moderated cooling off

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
words. On 05/09/17 14:32, Joel Holdsworth wrote: The ultimate goal for OSM should be a project which everyone feels welcome to be a part of, and which does not have a noticeable bias towards either gender or any given race. Also, please realize just because women are welcome to participate in OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
The ultimate goal for OSM should be a project which everyone feels welcome to be a part of, and which does not have a noticeable bias towards either gender or any given race. Also, please realize just because women are welcome to participate in OSM, does not necessarily mean that some women

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Surveys and studies

2017-09-05 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
On 05/09/17 12:07, Charlotte Wolter wrote: If someone named Allessanbdro were in charge, a study, such as Zoe's, never would happen, Clearly, from the reactions on the email lists, a gender topic is very threatening to a number of members. That's a quite a toxic statement. It's hard to think

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
Because the very notion that it is relevant to study OSM by gender is divisive. Who cares what the gender balance of contributors to OSM is? I don't. I didn't even know what the split was until this thread. Because it literally doesn't matter. Even it were 99% women, it wouldn't matter. So

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-04 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
certainly is. You should talk to a psychologist - they would be able to explain why the demographics are what they are, but that's academic as far as I'm concerned. Best Regards Joel Holdsworth On September 4, 2017 4:45:27 AM MDT, Zoe Gardner <zoegardn...@gmail.com> wrote: >Dear OSM talk s

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-10 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
On 10/03/17 14:52, Brian Stromberg wrote: Wow. I think it at least merits a discussion. Yes, it's a political decision but not so ridiculous as to dismiss it as part of a feminist plot. Not a feminist plot. Just a very tired game to see played out over and over. I've seen it played in a lot

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-10 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
ess open to those that believe it is an important thing to discuss. Thanks, Ian (Your friendly talk-us moderator) On Mar 10, 2017 16:38, "Joel Holdsworth" <j...@airwebreathe.org.uk <mailto:j...@airwebreathe.org.uk>> wrote: No. "Man" has been a general term

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-10 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
nd serves no purpose. There is no need for the change, or a pointless discussion about such a change. Please lets get on with making an awesome map. Best Regards Joel Holdsworth On 10/03/17 14:27, Joshua Houston wrote: Hi, It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term

Re: [Talk-us] U turn restrictions in areas

2015-08-18 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
2) Is there a known tagging scheme for this? Area based traffic resctrictions? No, but it would be handy, because there's literally no way anybody's tagging this for every approach of every intersection with a traffic light, HAWK or half-signal in Oregon that doesn't have an

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
Therefore, tagging them as protected areas is appropriate (not withstanding the fact that not much in a National Forest seems protected based upon my visit to a section of the Roosevelt National Forest yesterday). +1 agree with everything you say. Also, come help me map the land-cover! -

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
Yeah I posted a question about this last week: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/44763/tagging-us-national-forests To me landuse=forest is pretty clearly incorrect. It should be boundary=protected_area,protect_class=6 and the rendering rules should be patched to make it appear similar

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
This whole discussion going back more than a year ago has been dominated by very European concepts of what is a forest. I think that's the problem. In europe (and for that matter the whole of OSM) forest == trees. Every square foot of a landuse=forest area should be covered in trees.

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
I did the same to the Roosevelt National Forest a couple of weeks ago: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/40.6167/-105.3240 Hopefully we can patch the rendering rules to display boundary=protected_area Joel On 17/08/15 15:44, Martijn van Exel wrote: I removed the landuse=forest from the

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Per discussione Joel Holdsworth
It worked before, it can work this way again. It worked to some degree, but it was rather a road-block to adding more detail. It won't every be possible to produce a detailed image like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/49.1850/7.9723 ...when the whole administrative area is clobbered