Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-28 Per discussione Lesi
bike everywhere in my area, so I do not use cycleway. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting-(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-20 Per discussione Lesi
The feature is now approved. So let's start mapping mineshafts. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dmineshaft lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-18 Per discussione Lesi
So let's start voting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft lesi It is planed to close the voting tomorrow. So vote now. Preliminary result: 7 times approved, 1 time opposed, one fun vote. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft#Voting Due

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal -Voting- (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-07 Per discussione Lesi
with an integrated voting mechanism would be the best to introduce new features. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-05 Per discussione Lesi
In the last days no further problems appeared and it seems that all helpful suggestions are included now. So let's start voting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-05 Per discussione Lesi
In the last days no further problems appeared and it seems that all helpful suggestions are included now. So let's start voting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft lesi It would be nice if further votes would be more serious. If you do not like voting, do

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal -Voting - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-11-05 Per discussione Lesi
this discussion again so soon? I do not know which discussion you mean? According to the wiki voting is still neccessary to approve a new feature. If there have been any changes to this, they are not documented in the wiki. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-29 Per discussione Lesi
content. So IMO such contributions should be immediately deleted. If the users uploads them again, he should be banned. Using Google is also really unfair towards those people who map with their GPS devices and invest so much time and energy into this project. It is really demotivating. lesi

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-27 Per discussione Lesi
2009/10/24 Lesi l...@lesi.is-a-geek.net: - In the forum somebody has suggested to add a tag for the name of the mine the mineshaft belongs to. At first I thought this would be the same as operator, but actually it is not. So which tag would be appropriate? mine=...? to associate

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-27 Per discussione Lesi
no further comments, so I've changed mineshaft:type to mineshaft_type. I've also added the mine-tag. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-27 Per discussione Lesi
at the moment there are: name - name of the mineshaft itself mine - name of the mine which the mineshaft is part of operator - name of the operator of the mine lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-23 Per discussione Lesi
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbunker. - In the forum somebody has suggested to add a tag for the name of the mine the mineshaft belongs to. At first I thought this would be the same as operator, but actually it is not. So which tag would be appropriate? mine=...? lesi

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
this and replacing all this different tags with one: resource? lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
winding gears is the main purpose of a headframe IMO. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
how will you tag unmined deposits in such a scheme? If there is a unmined deposit, the mineshaft is not in use anymore - disused=yes lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
mostly they are not mapped because people do not know how to tag them. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
and no references to surface_mining There is also landuse=quarry which can be used for surface mines. But actually they are not part of my proposal - it refers only to underground mining. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
There is probably a good reason only tourist attractions are mapped because you wouldn't be allowed to go near one unless you worked there, there is a mine shaft on the other side of town but I wouldn't get anywhere near it. I know mineshaft you can get very close to (2-3m). With your

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:05, Lesi wrote: how will you tag unmined deposits in such a scheme? If there is a unmined deposit, the mineshaft is not in use anymore - disused=yes Do NOT use something like disused=yes as a modifier, you instead need to add an extra level of indirection, so

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
is to express if the headframe is visible, because it is a prominent point of reference. Look at the examples in the wiki. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC-(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
meant adit and not audit. Some people would call it a gallery. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC-(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
=yes is widely used and not deprecated. So there is no reason to use a different system with mineshafts. I would recommend to start a proposal to deprecate disused=yes and replace it with =closed;closed=. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
but when the mine shaft is disused the winding gear is removed I can not confirm this. All disused mineshafts I know still have their winding gear, only the cables are removed. But even if the winding gear is removed you can tag with headframe=yes. Of courde, if the whole headframe is

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
how will you tag unmined deposits in such a scheme? If there is a unmined deposit, the mineshaft is not in use anymore - disused=yes. lesi I wasn't thinking of disused, i was thinking of still there, with or without a mineshaft Perhaps, my English is too bad, but I do not really

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Lesi
Underground resources can not be mapped. why not? isn't that what a geology map does? I was commenting on the resource proposal really Now I get your point. The resource-tag describes for which resource the mineshaft was built. If the mineshaft is disused, it is irrelevant if the deposits