Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd bengt bäverman
What are we doing? Is it *really* worth changing the license if we risk loosing so very large parts of what we in the end want to create and preserve, even protect? When will the information in red be deleted unless the contributing user accepts the new licence agreement? cheers BengtB

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Simon Josefsson
I have not seen anything on the wiki or elsewhere that data will be _removed_ from OSM for non-relicensed data. Are you sure this is even considered? References? /Simon bengt bäverman be...@baverman.se writes: What are we doing? Is it *really* worth changing the license if we risk loosing

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd bengt bäverman
Only what Hanno Hecker said below. If that is true or not I don't know. /B 2010/11/10 Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org: I have not seen anything on the wiki or elsewhere that data will be _removed_ from OSM for non-relicensed data.  Are you sure this is even considered?  References?

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Andreas Vilén
What kind of stupidity is this? I was acertained that nothing would be removed in the licence change, and therefore supported it. If lots of data will be removed, I STRONGLY OPPOSE this licence change, of course far too late in the process. This will, in any case, probably lower my ambition to

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Andreas Vilén
Also, I'm rather certain that most people accept the new terms, but simply don't understand it's important to check the checkboxes. People who have left the project will not explicitely accept this. It seems unbelievably stupid by the OSM foundation to vote for a non-backwards compatible licence

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Hanno Hecker
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 02:24:55 +0100 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of stupidity is this? I was acertained that nothing would be removed in the licence change, and therefore supported it. If lots of data will be removed, I STRONGLY OPPOSE this licence change, of course

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Andreas Vilén
Yes, I have read through something like that before. That doesn't answer what happens with the entire city of Gothenburg... For example, much of it is mapped by a user who has not edited since October 2009... The probability that this user will see and accept the new terms is very low. We can,

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Hanno Hecker
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:49:02 +0100 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I have read through something like that before. That doesn't answer what happens with the entire city of Gothenburg... For example, much of it is mapped by a user who has not edited since October 2009... The

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Bengt Bäverman
Now that I have read the pages on the migration to ODbL I may have reacted to strongly and to soon. As far as I can see the data will not be deleted, just not available through the normal channels. However a copy of the existing planet.osm will be saved for the forseeable future. There

Re: [Talk-se] ODBL in Sweden

2010-11-10 tråd Hanno Hecker
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:07:47 +0100 Susanna Björverud susanna.bjorve...@telia.com wrote: When you say will be removed what does that really imply. F ex way 24744222 which I originally added (and I have accepted the new terms) have subsequently been refined by two other users, whom I guess not