Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread nounours77
Am 11.12.2013 um 16:12 schrieb Pieren pier...@gmail.com: This proposal does not replace, deprecate or obsolete the already existing and well known tags“ Everybody agrees on that. The old tags still stay valid. Don't expect that renderers have to change since the proposal states clearly

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, nounours77 I really do not understand. I will tell it differenty : why the renderers should support two tags for the same feature if it's not to deprecate one of them ? or why the proposal claims to not replace or deprecate previous tags and we get complains

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread nounours77
Thanks for the explanation, Pieren. I understand your view. But it looks colored by „I’ve always been against this proposal“ to me. What’s happening now is what you feared, and why you were against. Maybe you should have been followed. Maybe fearing something might help creating it ... I did

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread fly
On 11.12.2013 16:32, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, nounours77 I really do not understand. I will tell it differenty : why the renderers should support two tags for the same feature if it's not to deprecate one of them ? or why the proposal claims to not replace or

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Jo
I went with the pragmatic solution, after being rebuffed several times. You're not the first one who brings this up. :-) It doesn't seem like there is a willingness to support the new scheme, which leads me to say: ok, then it's not necessary to add the new tags, so I don't. Then the rest of the

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Mike N
On 12/11/2013 11:07 AM, fly wrote: If you keep on adding both schemes simultaneously you will not notice the problem and there will be no reason for developers to adjust the software. One of the problems in this situation is the map rendering developers have not taken an interest in the new

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Mann
Simply rendering public_transport=platform+bus=yes (if that's correct) as a bus stop is a matter of a few lines of xml in the tag-transform (to insert a highway=bus_stop tag in relevant nodes, which the normal rendering processes can pick up). Though since this is functionally the same as the

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Jo
The point would be that it then becomes possible to leave out highway=bus_stop by contributors who want to do that, thus opening the possibility to migrate towards the new scheme. Jo 2013/12/11 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com Simply rendering public_transport=platform+bus=yes

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Mann
tag-transform is an osmosis plugin. It happens before conversion to the postgres database, so you can use any tags that exist in the wild On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: For a long time, public_transport was not transfered to the DB used for the rendering of