Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Éric Gillet
2015-07-01 7:38 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: In retrospect public_transport=platform was a misnomer. Maybe we should have used public_transport=pole. A platform can be a pole, or a shelter, or a dock, or a boarding platform for a train... It is meant to abstract differences between

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Jo
2015-07-01 10:00 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet gill3t.3ric+...@gmail.com: 2015-07-01 7:38 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: In retrospect public_transport=platform was a misnomer. Maybe we should have used public_transport=pole. A platform can be a pole, or a shelter, or a dock, or a boarding

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Jo
I am the mapper. I use the processing to assist me, like a tool. I also try to map them all in the same way for consistency. The problem is that apparently there was still room for interpretation in the 'version 2' of the public transport scheme. What I see happening in Germany is that

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Richard Mann
Your processing needs to be able to cope with these situations, using the latlon of the features, if the relationships aren't explicit. Get the computer to do the work, not the mappers. Richard On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-07-01 10:00 GMT+02:00 Éric Gillet

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Éric Gillet
2015-07-01 10:53 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: That only works if there is one stop_area relation per direction of travel. At the moment the wiki states to use a stop_area relation for all PT related stuff that is near to each other. I need to relate the platform nodes to the nearby way,

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
To me it's logical to put all those ref, network and operator tags in the stop_area relation, not on the nodes or ways. The relation is the only element that describes the bus stop completely. If you only put the ref and operator on the platform, the stop position is missing. But if mappers in a

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Jo
I tend to add the waste_basket that clearly 'belongs' to the bus stop, the bench, the shelter, the ticker/departures screen in as well. Most of the time they have a style you don't see elsewhere. Never occurred to me to add toilets or flowers or pubs though. But do we agree a stop_area relation