Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-14 Thread DC Viennablog
@Polyglot: I do think you are thinking to much of software that uses the date rather than of the mappers and the database. For both of those, it is better to habe less objects to contend with (mapper) and less objects with potentially redundant values/positions (database). The fact that maybe a

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-14 Thread DC Viennablog
The target of OSM is to map physical objects, however, a node that is „highway=bus_stop“ is not really a physical object. You could say it is the station pole, but what if there is no station pole, as the schedule is mounted on the wall of a house or inside a shelter, or just doesn‘t exist to

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-13 Thread DC Viennablog
Why does all the info need to be in one node and not on a way? Also, if there is a platform, it should be a polygon, not just a line. That should not be to micro to be mapped in true dimensions. If that object is the true only thing that defines the stop, it should be able to have the tags in

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-13 Thread DC Viennablog
When the platform is a really existing built thing, you would need highway=platform on it, and an additional highway=bus_stop at the stop pole or wherever. That is more clutter and worse state of the database, than if we would finally move to the more versatile public_transport=platform. As it

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-09 Thread DC Viennablog
Yes, one object would be nice, however, I think it should be versatile enough to be able to be a node, line or polygon. So basically what public_transport=platform is. I also don't mind it being called "platform", even if there is only a pole stuck in a field. That would not make p_t:v2 mapping

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-07 Thread DC Viennablog
I think someone in this discussion is confusing the idea of a new scheme with the current one. As it stands, the highway=bus_stop tag is a legacy tag for a node. If the platform is a node, it can be put on there (for legacy sake, although the p_t:v2 scheme suggests to sunset that tag) but if

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-04-28 Thread DC Viennablog
Hello everyone, I will briefly jump into this conversation, as I have mapped quite a few bus routes in and around vienna, austria, and amended most Stops there to fit the definitions of the pt:v2 from the wiki. In my view, it would, at least for bus stops, be enough if there was a (bus) stop

Re: [Talk-transit] Documentation issues of PT tagging schemes

2018-07-26 Thread DC Viennablog
Hi, I would also be OK with only the stop in the relation (with all tags possible (Way 1) or as Way 2 (see below)) and the other aspects just as additional pieces, however, a bit of redundance could be there to make the platform and relations also human-readable. I know, people dealing with