[Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train

Hi! The local rail transport company has a timetable where each departure has its own ref. So a train goes from A to B in the morning, and that has a ref 8005. Then it goes the same route an hour later, and that is 8007. Anyway, during the day, the same route is done 21 times, and tags on my relat

Re: [Talk-transit] Long bus routes

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 13:20 Dave F via Talk-transit < talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > On 02/08/2019 14:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > I think they should be mapped as relations with only stations in the > relation. > > How would you perform real-time tracki

[Talk-transit] Long bus routes

your thoughts? Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

. I see no reason to group objects in stop_area_groups, unless maybe if there is a name or ref that only makes sense to give to a collection of stops, and they all have different names. But if you are talking about a station, we have the tag public_transport=station. Jan

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

me to add > toilets or flowers or pubs though. > > But do we agree a stop_area relation is needed for each side of a street? > and a stop_area_group to show that they belong together? > > Jo > > > > 2015-07-02 0:31 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > >> To me it'

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

To me it's logical to put all those ref, network and operator tags in the stop_area relation, not on the nodes or ways. The relation is the only element that describes the bus stop completely. If you only put the ref and operator on the platform, the stop position is missing. But if mappers in a c

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

It only takes one great public transport map with routing, and the new scheme will come to life. Who cares about Openstreetmap default map. Who cares about the public transport layer on Openstreetmap which doesn't even have tram lines rendered. We need outside help with this :) Janko 2014-08-12

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

I don't think we need a new tag. There would be a lot of gray area, where do coaches end and buses start? The line isn't clear. What would help is we should map the operator tag and then the renderers should show the route or not based on the operator. Or different operators could be rendered with

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS and the like

Although I think timetable data could be in OSM, there is no standard defined yet. GTFS is probably your best choice right now. I never tried synchronizing GTFS data with OSM routes and stations, so I can't help you with that. Dana 2. 4. 2014. 18:29 osoba "Florian Lohoff" napisala je: > > > Hi, >

Re: [Talk-transit] Close stations having the same name

2013/12/19 Shaun McDonald > > What about search and routing engines returning the expected result for > exact sign of the name of the local station? As a traveller it’s annoying > to be told to go to x station, only to get there and find it’s the > underground or some other variant that you are a

Re: [Talk-transit] Close stations having the same name

2013/12/19 Erik Johansson > ... if you see it in a routing data base > it's almost impossible to know which is which unless you name them > differently. > How is it impossible? If it has bus=yes, it's a bus station. If it has train=yes it's a train station. Where's the problem? Janko __

Re: [Talk-transit] Close stations having the same name

Naming them different than they are named on the ground is mapping for the renderer. Just add train=yes, bus=yes or tram=yes, and that should be enough. A good renderer will put a little train/bus/tram icon below the name of the station. 2013/12/18 Jo > Here the platforms for buses near to a ra

Re: [Talk-transit] Tagging of railway station

I like the area approach. If you were on a platform, or in the station building, or on the tracks, each time you are in the railway station (or is it "on the station" when you are outside, and "in the station" when you are in the building?). So if there is an app that tells you where you are at th

Re: [Talk-transit] Extract Public Transport Information from a OSM file of city

Overpass is really easy to use, I made a query to give me all bus routes in three clicks: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Vu Querys can directly download an .osm file to your computer, and there you can further do what you want with it. Janko ___ Talk-trans

Re: [Talk-transit] Alternative routes

I was the one that suggested the frequency tag, and I still think it's a good way to tag transit lines. The thread ended in a suggestion that I make a visualization to see if it works, but I never found the time. Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-transit ma

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012/3/1 Tom Brown > > Perhaps you (or a collaborator) can setup a test system which consumes the > data (ie render it, generate a time table etc) and allow that experience to > guide your decision. It'll be a worthwhile effort because once people see > the data being used they'll be more motivat

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

Dana četvrtak, 1. ožujka 2012., korisnik Tom Brown je napisao: > Regarding your original proposal with Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30: > Instead of putting the count of trips in a time period how about giving the average headway? When exact times are not provided timetables and riders often refer to "how of

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012/3/1 Janko Mihelić > > "transport_frequency=Mo-Fr 08:00-23:00 t30; Sa 08:00-22:00 t25" > This one would be ( 30/24 + 25/24 ) / 2 = 1.146 trips per hour > > Janko > No, I forgot to count Mo-Fr as 5 days, and Sunday that has no trips. So it would be like this: (

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012/3/1 Erik Johansson > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 16:07, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > The interpretation of what a low volume line is and isn't seems hard, > and probably differ a lot between different areas. > > How do I do the decision that: > "transport_frequency=

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012/3/1 Bryce McKinlay > > GTFS is an open data format for public transport schedules. Just > because it was invented by Google does not mean that it's only > relevant to them. > > Many projects use GTFS data and have nothing to do with Google > Transit. Example: opentripplanner.org > > Bryce >

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

2012/3/1 Andre Joost > > Sounds interesting. For densly populated areas, it would be better to give > a frequency per hour, or every xy minutes. > Maybe my "t" could be replaced with "h10" for 10 trips every hour or "d40" for 40 trips every day. > But how should the renderer treat a service b

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

Dana srijeda, 29. veljače 2012., korisnik Bryce McKinlay je napisao: > If its just having a service frequency hint for renderers that is > required, then I'd suggest keeping it very simple. For example, > "transport_frequency=frequent", With my tag, it would be "transport_frequency=t50", and if i

[Talk-transit] Proposal for a new transport tag

ing this information. What do you guys think? (Should I have put this in the wiki first?) Janko Mihelić http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Janjko ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] routing on osm using public transport ?

If you need just the route shapes, I suggest using openrouteservice.org and choosing "bicycle". It can go anywhere. You can take "on foot" but it will go on footpaths and you will need more "via" points. Here is an example of a route

Re: [Talk-transit] commuter rail

Also there is the tag network=local and regional. I would guess "local" could be a commuter train by default, don't you think so? If not, I suggest a second tag, something like route=train, route:type=commute. The difference for me is just too small and ambiguous to invent a new route.. Janko 20

Re: [Talk-transit] commuter rail

I think that tag is not usable. There can be a train that goes from town to town, making it an ordinary train line. Then when it comes to a big city, it stops on every station, making it a commuter train line. How do you tag that? I know there aren't a lot of these trains, but I think the tag isn't