Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-31 Thread Gregory Arenius
I would love to see GTFS data imported into OSM, especially the SF data if you can convince them to change the license. I think the street= tag is a good idea. I'm unsure of the bearing tag. If we know which street the stop is on and where the stop is the direction the bus is going follows from

[Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread Peter Miller
I have been looking at the GTFS data for San Francisco over the past few days and considering how one could do a bus stops/tram stop import for the place and more generally for the GTFS data. However... in the process I want to be be 100% clear which road the stop serves and in which

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 15.07.2010 09:53, Peter Miller wrote: This is a problem when it comes to creating clear map rendering where one wants to snap the stop to correct side of the correct road and not left them floating as they are currently. An additional complication comes when one wants to position the

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread Joe Hughes
Peter, I think it would be helpful to look at GTFS data from a few diverse providers when testing ideas about imports, as data tends to reflect the historical practices of the particular agency in ways like naming patterns, which details are present, etc. There's a great deal of GTFS data on

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread Michał Borsuk
So you change the associated bus stops. Can be done. Greetings, LMB On 15.07.2010 14:50, john whelan wrote: I don't think this is a good idea as Ottawa certainly changes the bus routes or lines four times a year. Some lines are stable for many years but many are not. The stops themselves

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread john whelan
You are talking about verifying 10,000 bus stops four times a year. Are you assuming that this would be done through GTFS? Currently in Ottawa there is no way to tie the physical bus stop to GTFS and the GTFS locations are not always accurate. Not all bus stops are included in the file. At one

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 15.07.2010 15:02, john whelan wrote: You are talking about verifying 10,000 bus stops four times a year. No, I'm talking about changing those when the bus lines change. Not all bus stops have to be reviewed. Greetings, LMB -- Jesli czytasz ten podpis, to znaczy że obijam się w