[Talk-us] GeoBus call tonight

2010-10-21 Thread Jim McAndrew
There will be a GeoBus call tonight at 8pm Eastern Time. Part of the agenda for this evening will be discussing the new Community Events and Mapping Party work group: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Working_Groups/Community_Events The idea is to merge

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Greg Troxel
This discussion, although amazingly lengthy is seeming useful. Someone already explained that much of New England is different from most of the United States in terms of not having unicorporated areas, and it might help to explain details. In Massachusetts, we have counties. Counties don't do

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote: Only in those 11 states, right? I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by state level. Why treat it

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes: Read the link you provided: In the remaining nine town or township states (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Wisconsin), there is no geographic overlapping of these two

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense everywhere. What would be an example of a township that would be at admin_level=7? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
This discussion seems to have ended. Is it time to play spot the consensus yet? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/20/2010 03:47 PM, Anthony wrote: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_civil_division So far all (three) of the states I've checked fit fine with admin_level=6 for county equivalent, and admin_level=8 for municipality. I’ve recorded what I’ve found at

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote: At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly what municipality or minor civil division means for each state. Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Alex Mauer
On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote: At the very least it would be nice to have a table outlining exactly what municipality or minor civil division means for each state. Is there one somewhere already? Should I start one?

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion seems to have ended. Is it time to play spot the consensus yet? I've spotted the consensus. Stop your bickering. Either come to an agreement about this tagging, or ignore each other, but absolutely

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion seems to have ended. Is it time to play spot the consensus yet? I've spotted the consensus. Stop your bickering. Either come to

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Ian Dees
I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21,

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). I'm not sure what the point of this thread was then. All I got from it was: *If I ever

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Ah what the hell I'm sitting around at an airport with extra troll food... Nathan, you said yourself that you only edit-warred because you were trying to get the foundation's attention. I would call that trolling, yes. I

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nathan Edgars II wrote: This discussion seems to have ended. Is it time to play spot the consensus yet? We have discussed the issue and decided that: 1. We would prefer if both parties could behave like grown-ups, amicably resolve the matter (or at least find a compromise that both can

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread SteveC
+1 On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 3. We will not be drawn into further discussion about this. Edit wars are not an acceptable means of settling a dispute *even* if one is right. What would have been the correct means of settling the dispute then? I tried

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Alan Millar
I've spotted the consensus.  Stop your bickering.  Either come to an agreement about this tagging, or ignore each other, but absolutely stop picking on each other. You and Frederick seem to be the only ones with that view who contributed to this thread. As Ian said, the rest of us just

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Welty
i'm with Richard as well. richard On 10/21/10 5:16 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 3. We will not be drawn into further discussion about this. Edit wars are not an acceptable means of settling a dispute *even* if one is right. What would have been the correct means of

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/20/2010 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote: Can someone please turn off my need to constantly enter a capatcha (User:User_5528)? Is it because you’re adding external references?  That always triggers a CAPTCHA… I can't be

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I suggest that you ignore Paul's tagging as long as he uses it in his local area. If you can't manage to do that, maybe try a Yoga class. Cool down. Paul's tagging sure is quirky but who knows, sometimes these quirky

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com  wrote: So if we have whole-multiple-counties=5 (eg NYC) county=6 township=7 city/town=8 then it would make sense