Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Weait, etc.)

2012-10-27 Thread Russ Nelson
My only objection to network=US:US:Business / ref=80 is How do you know it's Business-80 or 80-Business on the signs? In essence here, we have the tension between free-format tagging and machine-parsable and understandable tagging. Syntax and semantics. We *definitely* don't need tagging with

Re: [Talk-us] Night of the Living Maps

2012-10-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Welty writes: however, there are vast areas (like most if not all of WV) where the alignment of TIGER 2005 is really awful, and TIGER 2011/2012 is a significant improvement. since the latter is available as an image layer which i know works with JOSM and i understand works with

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Welty, etc.)

2012-10-27 Thread Michal Migurski
On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: NE2 asked me to revert the changes, because he's unhappy with me moving the route variant information from the ref tags to the modifier tags, e.g. turning ref=80

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Weait, etc.)

2012-10-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Paul Johnson writes: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: My only objection to network=US:US:Business / ref=80 is How do you know it's Business-80 or 80-Business on the signs? Isn't that the argument in favor of network=US:US / ref=80 /

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Weait, etc.)

2012-10-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/27/12 2:46 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: If the former, then it matters if it's Business-80 or 80-Business. If the latter, then as long as we preserve the modifier, then we're good. at this point, i think i've seen enough to know that what goes on the signs can be a little bit unpredictable. on

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Weait, etc.)

2012-10-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Welty writes: On 10/27/12 2:46 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: If the former, then it matters if it's Business-80 or 80-Business. If the latter, then as long as we preserve the modifier, then we're good. at this point, i think i've seen enough to know that what goes on the signs can be

[Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
I saw bsupnik's wiki page, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bsupnik, on importing of NHD into OSM. I'm working on National Parks in Washington State. After spending countless hours tracing in streams and rivers into OSM, I've finally decided that importing makes more sense. I'm wondering

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread David ``Smith''
Past NHD imports have made vast multipolygons which can be difficult to interpret without a view of the whole thing. This made particular problems for tiles@home/osmarender, which tried to render the multipolygons without loading their out-of-area members, leading to water-land inversion in a lot

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Mike N
On 10/27/2012 7:28 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Before I bring this up on the imports list, I thought I'd ask the US community about their opinion about importing the data. I agree that it is a good idea to import NHD. It is an asset when doing surveys and updates: you can review it for any

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.comwrote: Past NHD imports have made vast multipolygons which can be difficult to interpret without a view of the whole thing. This made particular problems for tiles@home/osmarender, which tried to render the multipolygons

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:28 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Before I bring this up on the imports list, I thought I'd ask the US community about their opinion about importing the data. I agree that it is a good idea to import NHD. It is an

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Mike N
On 10/27/2012 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On the other hand, I believe NHD should not be imported into US OSM Edit deserts. It's best to wait until there is a community who wants an NHD import. In the meantime, the NHD for that area may be updated and when it is finally

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Mike N writes: For your case, since you are comparing it against existing data and Bing imagery and possible consultation with Topo maps, it is entirely appropriate to use NHD data. In effect, because of your interest, you are the active mapper in the area, even though it is not all

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Mike N writes: For your case, since you are comparing it against existing data and Bing imagery and possible consultation with Topo maps, it is entirely appropriate to use NHD data. In effect, because of your

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:19 PM To: OSM US Talk List Subject: Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports I would like to have every stream in the U.S. available as a .osm file. So, say, I am running along some road or railroad, and I see a stream that