Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I don't get why the assumption is this is copying from Google. It sure looks like this user lives in the area, and has likely seen this interchange in person, or maybe read about it in the news or something. It would not be too much of a stretch for someone to sketch in the new roads based on oth

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Feb 21, 2013 1:19 AM, "James Mast" wrote: > > The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his account. They could have been using someone else's traces in JOSM/Potlatch - you'd have to load everyone's traces (GPX layer in JOSM) to be sure. You also would need to check the

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Chris Lawrence writes: > On Feb 21, 2013 1:19 AM, "James Mast" wrote: >> >> The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his > account. > > They could have been using someone else's traces in JOSM/Potlatch - you'd > have to load everyone's traces (GPX layer in JOSM) to be sur

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org

2013-02-21 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, > Well öpnvkarte was considered along with the current transport layer and the > decision was that having two transport layers would be silly and that we > preferred the one that we are currently offering. OK, just to be clear. öpnvkarte passed all of the technical requirements, but was rejec

[Talk-us] Doodle on next US Import Committee Meeting

2013-02-21 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Sorry about the long delay in getting this meeting scheduled, I've been dealing with some big personal stuff at home. I want us to get on a regular meeting, especially now that the Kansas country work is done. I have worked a bit on the document I promised to draft for guidelines, and now, Ian De

Re: [Talk-us] Doodle on next US Import Committee Meeting

2013-02-21 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Ugg, wrong list again. I'm sorry all. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[Talk-us] USFS Wilderness data, import with a "lenient transformation?"

2013-02-21 Thread stevea
I've been working on an amazing national resource, regional to me, which I greatly enjoy both in real life and mapping in OSM: the Ventana Wilderness (around Big Sur, California) of the Los Padres National Forest (LPNF). I have discovered that Ventana is only the northernmost of ten wildernes

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Greg Troxel wrote: > I have lots of traces, have drawn ways from them (in josm), and I > haven't uploaded any of them. So not having traces in one's accounts > should not lead to the conclusion that GPS was not used. > Curious why someone would keep this informati

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Mike N
On 2/21/2013 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Curious why someone would keep this information to themselves rather than aiding others in improving the map. In my case, it's sheer laziness. I would also prefer to block out sections around my immediate "home base", but have not found an easy way

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Mike N wrote: > On 2/21/2013 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Curious why someone would keep this information to themselves rather >> than aiding others in improving the map. >> > > In my case, it's sheer laziness. I would also prefer to block out > sections arou

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Wilderness data, import with a "lenient transformation?"

2013-02-21 Thread stevea
An update: after some cursory examination of just the sort I am proposing (USFS data imported from shapefile WITH a "potentially noisy" transformation with superimposed USGS data), I find very high data correlation. The largest errors I am able to see (for the small subset of data I have visu

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Wilderness data, import with a "lenient transformation?"

2013-02-21 Thread stevea
John Novak writes: Hi Steve, Have you tried ogr2ogr, going shape to shape with a GCS_North_American_1983 and WGS84 source transform to epsg:900913 or epsg:4326 as a target ? Then you'll at least be in the right coordinate system. Hi John: Yes, I am now examining maybe something like: og

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Wilderness data, import with a "lenient transformation?"

2013-02-21 Thread stevea
Gregory Arenius writes: Have you tried using a different program, such as QGIS or ArcGIS, to transform to WGS84 and then translate to OSM? Hello Gregory: Yes, please see my previous reply to John Novak; I am now in the process of something similar using ogr2ogr. Do you have a link you cou

[Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Welty
i sent this out earlier today on conventional social networks, but i know a lot of you probably don't participate in them... a year or so backSteve Coast called for some Civil War related mapping. i'm not sure how much has really h

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Wilderness data, import?

2013-02-21 Thread stevea
Have you tried ogr2ogr, going shape to shape with a GCS_North_American_1983 and WGS84 source transform to epsg:900913 or epsg:4326 as a target ? Then you'll at least be in the right coordinate system. Awesome. Good old ogr2ogr did the trick. I now have eliminated the transformation error!

[Talk-us] parcel data next steps

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Cavagnolo
Hey guys, In a previous thread on parcel data, some people expressed interest in participating in creating some sort of open repository for parcel data. I was imagining a conference call or something to discuss next steps, but I think we can advance with email. I'm imagining that it makes sense

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
Richard, I hope you enjoy the area. I've already done a bit of mapping at the Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania battlefields. Cheers, Adam On Feb 21, 2013 6:46 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote: > i sent this out earlier today on conventional social networks, but i > know a lot of you probably > don't

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread James Mast
Well, I'm sending him a message right now asking him about this. Will update this when/if I get a message back from him. Also, I just downloaded the GPS tracks in that area, and none of them are along the new interchange ramps. And the reason I got the possible assumption is that some of

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/21/13 7:49 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: Richard, I hope you enjoy the area. I've already done a bit of mapping at the Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania battlefields. i look forward to it. is there any particular mapping task i should look for at Spotsylvania? richard __

Re: [Talk-us] Chicago Buildings Redux

2013-02-21 Thread Alex Barth
Awesome. NYC used to have the same retraction clause, luckily sane forces did away with it there, too. Bit by bit US city governments are outrunning OSM in openness :) On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Skye Book wrote: > That is incredibly encouraging news, congrats on the win! A few years >

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread James Mast
Just got a message back from him and it confirmed my worst fears. He openly admitted to me he used Google Maps to aid him adding the interchange to OSM. :( "Mostly I eyeballed it from Google satellite view with roads turned on. There are enough recognizable buildings & such that I could transl

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Rick Marshall
I mistakenly sent this to Greg and not the entire list. So, I'll retry it again: Hello all. I am still fairly new to OSM, so I don't know all the ins and outs. But I have to ask a question. Other than Google Mapmaker is there any other ways that Google's data gets updated? I recently made sev

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data next steps

2013-02-21 Thread Brian May
On 2/21/2013 7:27 PM, Brian Cavagnolo wrote: Hey guys, In a previous thread on parcel data, some people expressed interest in participating in creating some sort of open repository for parcel data. I was imagining a conference call or something to discuss next steps, but I think we can advance

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rick Marshall wrote: > I mistakenly sent this to Greg and not the entire list. So, I'll > retry it again: > > Hello all. I am still fairly new to OSM, so I don't know all the ins > and outs. But I have to ask a question. Other than Google Mapmaker > is there an

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Thread Jeff Meyer
This is exactly the kind of stuff we'd love to have in the Historical OSM setup, which is close to being ready for playing around with. Looking forward to more updates! - Jeff On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 2/21/13 7:49 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > >> Richard, >> >> I