Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/12 stevea stevea...@softworkers.com Yes, it seems confusing, but only if you think landuse=forest implies all trees. It doesn't: it implies all managed forest, whether with or without trees. Yes, basically the actual use of landuse=forest is: there are trees (judging from how

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Greg Troxel
I do agree with Mike Thompson's statement: If neither of the two tags being discussed (landuse=forest, natural=wood) are appropriate for tagging a generic area covered by trees (regardless if it is virgin, managed), it would be really helpful to have a tag that could be used for this

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 12/mag/2013, at 14:04, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: So, I'd like to see a landcover= tag, here it is http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/landcover ;-) cheers, Martin___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
If you have an area that cannot grow trees, due to altitude, inadequate groundwater, or having exposed rock rather than soil (as with many mountaintops), then, in what sense is it a managed forest? I am not talking about areas that are temporarily treeless due to the trees having been

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: If you have an area that cannot grow trees, due to altitude, inadequate groundwater, or having exposed rock rather than soil (as with many mountaintops), then, in what sense is it a managed forest? I am not talking

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/12 Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us For administrative purposes and area is designated a National Forest. In practice parts of the National Forest have no trees. Show nature=* make sense if we want to show what occupies the land. National Forest boundaries should be in OSM,

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-12 Thread stevea
If you have an area that cannot grow trees, due to altitude, inadequate groundwater, or having exposed rock rather than soil (as with many mountaintops), then, in what sense is it a managed forest? I am not talking about areas that are temporarily treeless due to the trees having been

[Talk-us] Search For Intro to OpenStreetMap Slide Presentation

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Marshall
Fellow OSM'rs. We have only had one meeting so far with the OSM St Louis MidAmerica Mapping Group, (last February) but it has paid some great dividends. I have been asked by the American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing (ASPRS) to present them with an overview of OpenStreetMap, Open