Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
Yes, Steve, I was also talking about this use of destination= on the main motorway ways to indicate 'the next significant settlement' that is consistently listed on the through signs and (some) onramp signs. They have versions of the control city concept in most countries with a freeway system. So

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-25 Thread stevea
Martin van Exel writes: Following the examples on the wiki, I think it should be fine to tag destination=Holt Rd on the motorway_link in this case: http://www.aaroads.com/midwest/indiana070/i-070_eb_exit_077_04.jpg - for example. Or am I getting that all wrong? The confusion arises partly from th

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread stevea
Paul Norman wrote: I took TIGER data and produced data showing what some states would look like: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/30244b2984216285735d Those are truly excellent visualizations, Paul. Thank you for producing them. Whether "right" or "wrong" this shows the power of a little bit

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-25 3:36 PM, Steve All wrote: Paul Norman wrote: I took TIGER data and produced data showing what some states would look like: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/30244b2984216285735d Those are truly excellent visualizations, Paul. Thank you for producing them. Whether "right" or "wr

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
Insightful maps! If this were reality, then why don't the official boundary files from Census look like this? I don't think we should be changing our admin_boundaries just yet. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 2014-06-24 6:50 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> > Do you propose

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
Following the examples on the wiki, I think it should be fine to tag destination=Holt Rd on the motorway_link in this case: http://www.aaroads.com/midwest/indiana070/i-070_eb_exit_077_04.jpg - for example. Or am I getting that all wrong? The confusion arises partly from the strange terminology used

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-24 6:50 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Do you propose cutting the areas out of the states, i.e. so that IRs > > are not in any admin_level=4 relations? That's what you have to do if > > you're fitting IRs into the admin_level hierarchy. > > No, since the states often have agreements for

Re: [Talk-us] Marking of turn:lanes in the cases of an implied right turn

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I would say the markings on the road govern the decision, as Tod > suggested. I have not attempted to map these yet myself, though. > > These would probably not be used for routing, but it would be > interesting for guidance, especially la

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Looking at the wiki for destination=, particularly the examples here > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination#Examples - it would > be interesting to add control cities to the main motorway ways - has > anyone already done this

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
You're probably right. Looking at the wiki for destination=, particularly the examples here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination#Examples - it would be interesting to add control cities to the main motorway ways - has anyone already done this? I found a copy of the AASHTO list of con

Re: [Talk-us] Marking of turn:lanes in the cases of an implied right turn

2014-06-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
I would say the markings on the road govern the decision, as Tod suggested. I have not attempted to map these yet myself, though. These would probably not be used for routing, but it would be interesting for guidance, especially lane guidance. Martijn On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Tod Fitch

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-25 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-06-25 05:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there is the key "postal_code" to be used on areas (and streets), I am not sure if Nominatim evaluates it, but could be. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Apostal_code postal_code or addr:postcode are for a ZIP code itself, while addr:city

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-25 12:37 GMT+02:00 Minh Nguyen : > "Postal cities" aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values on > individual POIs and buildings. there is the key "postal_code" to be used on areas (and streets), I am not sure if Nominatim evaluates it, but could be. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/25/14 6:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > "Postal cities" aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values on > individual POIs and buildings. Clifford's first example is a building > that lies outside the Redmond city limits but still carries a Redmond > address, which is noted in addr:city. > >

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-25 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-06-24 05:52, Brian Quinion wrote: Hi, So from my point of view as a nominatim developer the issue is that there are (at least?) 2 types of city in the USA. There are administrative cities and there are postal cities. There are also census areas, which may or may not be their own catego