Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread stevea
Thank you Bradley, Mike and brad for the fascinating insights, clarifications and continuing discussion. I did not realize that this sort of boundary / ownership / administration / distinctions with private inholdings was anywhere near this complex: that "Congressional Boundary" thing I find

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread brad
I've been struggling with this for roads.   Unfortunately on the ground survey is the best.   There are a few cases where property owners have put up illegal, or very misleading signs.  The motor vehicle use map (MVUM) is helpful, but usually not accurate outside NF boundary, but maybe good

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread Mike Thompson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 8:08 AM Bradley White wrote: > > > Somewhat related, in the cases where an official FS road or trail crosses private property, does the FS have an easement, or is it kind of an informal arrangement? > > Best way to know for sure is ground survey, but generally USFS system

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread Bradley White
> Somewhat related, in the cases where an official FS road or trail crosses > private property, does the FS have an easement, or is it kind of an informal > arrangement? Best way to know for sure is ground survey, but generally USFS system roads & trails (also available for viewing using the

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread Mike Thompson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 6:59 AM Bradley White wrote: > > > While it certainly may exist, I'm not aware of a disparity between the "congressionally declared boundary" and any other boundary of a NF, including "physical land that the NF actually owns and manages." How would anyone know where this

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-23 Thread Bradley White
> While it certainly may exist, I'm not aware of a disparity between the > "congressionally declared boundary" and any other boundary of a NF, including > "physical land that the NF actually owns and manages." How would anyone know > where this latter boundary is? The declared boundaries are