Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Millar
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > This is now complete for the area west of Portland Oregon as a test. > > http://www.paulnorman.ca/blog/?attachment_id=96 shows the difference. Nice improvement! I like it. > About 99.8% of the data was untouched since it was imported. I checked

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
: John Chambers [mailto:jcha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:48 PM > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" > > I know of least one 46006 that I would consider a river (Tussahaw > creek) , but doesn't have riv

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-22 Thread John Chambers
..@mac.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:52 PM >> To: 'Richard Welty'; talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" >> >> This is the view I subscribe to too. An example of two ways I would want >>

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
...@mac.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:52 PM > To: 'Richard Welty'; talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" > > This is the view I subscribe to too. An example of two ways I would want > to join would be htt

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-21 Thread Nakor
On 3/20/2011 8:30 PM, Mike N wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what Paul was talking about. Agre

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
review. > -Original Message- > From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:38 PM > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" > > On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrot

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/20/2011 9:12 PM, Richard Welty wrote: if combining them meaningfully improves the map, by all means do it. Or improves editing. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/20/11 8:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:38 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using relations to group ways that are parts of named rivers rather than trying to combine the ways. If the

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/20/2011 8:38 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using relations to group ways that are parts of named rivers rather than trying to combine the ways. If the only difference between the ways is that NHD

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using relations to group ways that are parts of named rivers rather than trying to combine the ways. If the only difference between the ways is that NHD assigns a different ID number to them, not

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Mike N wrote: > On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > >> There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of >> each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch >> but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what Paul was

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Mike N
On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what Paul was talking about. Agreed - this is a safe case of duplicate

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > >> On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: >> >>> 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would >>> do >>> by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it wo

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > >> 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do >> by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after >> steps >> 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Lo

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after steps 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Looking at nhd:com_id it mi

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after steps 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Looking at nhd:com_id it might cause problems with updating, so I'm thi

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
tmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" > > 1 and 2 make sense to me. What criteria would you use for 2? I have > done a fair bit of NHD imports and simply used the name, i.e. > river, to classify rivers. Some parts of the country have di

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread James U
1 and 2 make sense to me. What criteria would you use for 2? I have done a fair bit of NHD imports and simply used the name, i.e. river, to classify rivers. Some parts of the country have different naming traditions that others. What is the rationale for 3? On Sunday, March 20, 20

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
ldredge.com [mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 2:42 PM > To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" > > Has anyone determined for sure that the streams you plan to tag as > intermittent ar

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread john
were, in fact, all intermittent. ---Original Email--- Subject :[Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers" >From :mailto:penor...@mac.com Date :Sun Mar 20 16:29:54 America/Chicago 2011 A mapnik rendering change has revealed a problem in some areas with NHD imported waterways.

[Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
A mapnik rendering change has revealed a problem in some areas with NHD imported waterways. An example of the problem is at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3&lon=-123.3&zoom=9&layers=M Essentially, all the streams are tagged as waterway=river, with waterway=stream being used for what appear t