sources without copyright ambiguities.From: Hilton Long To: talk-us@openstreetmap.orgSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:14:18 AMSubject: Re: [Talk-us] Public Domain Non-GPS Data Question
This discussion about facts versus “creative spark”
relates to a question I raised earlier abo
This discussion about facts versus "creative spark" relates to a question I
raised earlier about street names, which may only be available on commercial
databases like Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft "Live Earth".
I propose that when Google and Yahoo agree that the name of the street is
"Main S
On Feb 26, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:29:21PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
>> Please read the NASA Open Source License. In it you will very
>> clearly
>> find the position that FedGov-produced works are not copyrightable
>> FOR
>> US CITIZENS. Tha
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:29:21PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
> Please read the NASA Open Source License. In it you will very clearly
> find the position that FedGov-produced works are not copyrightable FOR
> US CITIZENS. That license is written as FedGov works ARE copyrighted
> for everyone
Please read the NASA Open Source License. In it you will very clearly
find the position that FedGov-produced works are not copyrightable FOR
US CITIZENS. That license is written as FedGov works ARE copyrighted
for everyone else. So yeah, there's a line, and no, we can't avoid
the line, a
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:29:20PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > Because the legal jurisdiction in which OSM is based is *not* the US,
>
> This is an important topic. We should consult OpenStreetMap's
> lawyer. With no knowledge
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:43:54PM -0500, Dale Puch wrote:
> A valid point about international corporations. But dealing with US and
> state government data if it is uncopyrightable, or public domain then anyone
> (here at the very least) has no restrictions on use. Including
> international use
On Feb 26, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
> Because the legal jurisdiction in which OSM is based is *not* the US,
This is an important topic. We should consult OpenStreetMap's
lawyer. With no knowledge of which legal system applies, we can't do
anything sensible.
--
Russ Ne
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:08:48PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> >
> > This is talk-us and Russ is referring to the US Supreme Court. The
> > pedant in me insists that we maintain our World focus and mention
> > "Sweat
> > of the Brow".
>
>
On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
>
> This is talk-us and Russ is referring to the US Supreme Court. The
> pedant in me insists that we maintain our World focus and mention
> "Sweat
> of the Brow".
Sorry, I'm confused. Why should talk-us talking about imports of us
data nee
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 01:04 -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
> A good summary,Chris, and I incorporate your disclaimer by reference.
Indeed. Good work from both of you. I incorporate the disclaimer and
compliment by reference.
> It's all very complicated, made more so by supreme court decisions
>
On Feb 25, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
> This is interesting, but makes me feel uneasy: the entire point of OSM
> is to be as Legally Far From Hot Water as possible, and directly
> contradicting something the GIS department *wants*, even if the
> supreme
> court slapped them o
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:42:18AM +, Dale Puch wrote:
> A follow up on the CA case
> http://www.cfac.org/content/index.php/cfac-news/legal_development/
> Specifically:
>The county also claimed that it has a federal copyright in the basemap.
> It argued that copyright protection authorizes
A follow up on the CA case
http://www.cfac.org/content/index.php/cfac-news/legal_development/
Specifically:
The county also claimed that it has a federal copyright in the basemap.
It argued that copyright protection authorizes the county to condition
release of records, under freedom of informat
A good summary,Chris, and I incorporate your disclaimer by reference.
It's all very complicated, made more so by supreme court decisions
which make it clear that facts about the world are not subject to
copyright. You can't copyright the blue of the sky. It simply is;
not something anyon
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:39:46PM -0500, Dale Puch wrote:
> Sorry, I typed without refreshing my memory.
> Here is a link that applies to California regarding state GIS data due to
> their public records act
> http://geodatapolicy.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/are-government-parcel-gis-data-subject-to-
Sorry, I typed without refreshing my memory.
Here is a link that applies to California regarding state GIS data due to
their public records act
http://geodatapolicy.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/are-government-parcel-gis-data-subject-to-open-records-law/
For Florida http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 06:19:07PM +, Dale Puch wrote:
> For some quick visualization with OSM data, Merkaator now can read shp files
> as well, but less options for the display.
>
> Asking the GIS department about the data is generally the best way to find
> out about the data. As a general
For some quick visualization with OSM data, Merkaator now can read shp files
as well, but less options for the display.
Asking the GIS department about the data is generally the best way to find
out about the data. As a general rule US local, state and national GIS data
should be in the public do
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:38:03AM -0800, Spencer Riddile wrote:
> Christopher,
>
> I sent an email to the GIS Coordinator of Blacksburg to check whether the
> data is public domain.
>
> Cool! Do you have your own hosted version of OSM and that is how you were
> able to add the buildings? If
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 06:43:00AM -0800, Spencer Riddile wrote:
> The town of Blacksburg, VA has some GIS data publicly available on a
> website.
I'm assuming you're looking at these:
http://www.gis.lib.vt.edu/gis_data/Blacksburg/GISPage.html
Using qgis, I tossed together a quick snapshot o
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 06:43:00AM -0800, Spencer Riddile wrote:
> The town of Blacksburg, VA has some GIS data publicly available on a
> website.
>
> There is also U.S. Forest Service data for the George Washington and
> Jefferson National Forest.
>
> I would like to upload some of this to OS
The town of Blacksburg, VA has some GIS data publicly available on a
website.
There is also U.S. Forest Service data for the George Washington and Jefferson
National Forest.
I would like to upload some of this to OSM. Is that OK? Any
advice? Thanks!__
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