Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-22 Thread Fred Gifford
HI All, Thanks for all the great comments and input. This is what I was hoping for. It seems like the biggest concern people have expressed is the idea of doing some bulk loading of trails. I am with you on those concerns and think that the primary rule for bulk loading should be first do no

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 07/20/2012 09:27 PM, Richard Weait wrote: I can't think of a good substitute for a motivated local mapper. Daniel Begin said this recently on talk-ca: You'll find that there is nothing better than an active community to find odd features in authoritative data! Daniel knows of what he

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 07/20/2012 11:22 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: - Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload methodology. Just and idea for the community's consideration: as an avid trail user and mapper, the one type of

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 07/22/2012 10:19 AM, Fred Gifford wrote: It seems like the biggest concern people have expressed is the idea of doing some bulk loading of trails. I am with you on those concerns and think that the primary rule for bulk loading should be first do no harm. Lots of people have made great edits

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com writes: I agree 100%. I have a good bit of data from New York State on trails that is surely incomplete and imperfect but better than anything we have in OSM. I've not uploaded any of it because I've not convinced myself that it's doing no harm. But most of

[Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Fred Gifford
Hi all, I am starting the process of pulling together a group to focus on updating and expanding trail data in OSM. The initial focus would be in the US but we are hoping the model could expand to other areas as well. Initially the project would have two main focus areas – - Focused effort to

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
Fred, I think it is a great idea to focus on trails. In my opinion, this would be a great use of OSM. In my area OSM already has data that in many cases is better than publicly available data. Best way to get this data is to turn on the GPS and go for a hike or bike ride. One area we could

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Initially the project would have two main focus areas – - Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload methodology.

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.com writes: I am starting the process of pulling together a group to focus on updating and expanding trail data in OSM. The initial focus would be in the US but we are hoping the model could expand to other areas as well. You should first assess how things

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried to work with local hiking/mountain clubs on mapping trails? I know one guy from the sierra club. He is organizing hikes for the club year round and turns them into mapping parties for anyone

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.com writes: [ ... ] - Building trail mapping communities in the US. Indeed, that is the key point. I think this is the best way to success. You could even leave out the trail and it will have

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
please no bulk upload. public data isn't always up to date and really needs a review. if a trail is missing it's not a big deal when you have an additional option. But if you plan a long hike and a trail is no passable anymore it can be really dangerous. +1 And special tags have to be

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
- Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload methodology. Just and idea for the community's consideration: as an avid trail user and mapper, the one type of bulk upload that would interest me would be