Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread stevea
Missed that the first skim through as I was intent on seeing about restrictions on automated requests. Odd that something like a postal code needs permission from the postal service to reproduce, republish, etc. Hello Tod: This (import) vetting process includes the important question (by

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread Greg Morgan
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: The USPS has a web site for giving ZIP and ZIP+4 values for specified addresses at https://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupAction!input.action?mode=0refresh=true

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/23/14 8:26 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: What do people think about this? Is it a reasonable idea? Does it violate some rules that I am not aware of? the USPS may well see this as a ToS violation. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap -

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread stevea
Hi Steve, No worries. Seemed like most of the reasons I'd heard about importing ZIP code data is that it is either linear or point specific in nature and the imports were attempts to use areas to implement them, usually based on census data. I just wondered if getting ZIP codes for objects

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread Greg Morgan
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: The USPS has a web site for giving ZIP and ZIP+4 values for specified addresses at

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/23/14 11:29 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: the terms prohibits us from posting the data. About the third paragraph in. exactly. do not build this plugin. we cannot take data generated from the USPS web interface in this manner. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday, February 17, 2014, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: be aware that these are not official, these are a census bureau construction. There's also the problem that the Census has just made stuff up for areas that are not covered by ZIP codes at all. One instance that came

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: The USPS has a web site for giving ZIP and ZIP+4 values for specified addresses at https://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupAction!input.action?mode=0refresh=true As near as I can tell from the TOS at

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-22 Thread Tod Fitch
Missed that the first skim through as I was intent on seeing about restrictions on automated requests. Odd that something like a postal code needs permission from the postal service to reproduce, republish, etc. -Tod On Feb 22, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Toby Murray wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Mike Thompson
Charles, Thanks for starting the dialog and being willing to work on a project like this. Those are not exactly the same as postal zip codes, they are specific for census purposes, so the community may want to keep that in mind. Mike On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Ian Dees
Charles, The zipcode information from census.gov aren't official zipcodes. Only the USPS knows those and they don't give them out very often. Also, zip codes are not polygons, but lines. Also, the data from Census is from 2010 and hasn't been updated since. It's my opinion that they should not be

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/17/14 2:11 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: Hi, I have a shape file from census.gov which contains the boundaries for all zip codes in the US. This data should not need licensing in that it comes from the us federal census. I would also like the community to answer this

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Charles, Thanks for willing to help out getting better ZIP code coverage into OSM. Importing from Census however is not the way to go, for reasons Ian pointed out just now. I would add that OSM already contains higher level administrative boundaries, most of which also derive from Census data.

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Steven Johnson
Formally, the Census product is called ZCTAs - Zip Code Tabulation Areas, and they are polygons. They are useful in a variety of operations internal to Census Bureau, and externally as part of the transportation planning program but, as others have pointed out, they are NOT official Zip codes. The

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Dale Puch
Others probably gave you what you needed, but here is some links for more reading if anyone wants to understand the issue better. http://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/ Reasonable write up, similar to what has already been said here. http://faq.usps.com/... USPS