Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Thread Michael Patrick
The other thing that has come up is that there are a lot of TIGER edges that do not correspond to OSM ways in either their old or new version In Indiana most of these seem to be linear water. Were these intentionally excluded from OSM? Or would it be useful to try to pick them up as part of the

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Thread Mike N
On 3/16/2013 5:06 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: I'm surprised by how bad the NHD data is. I downloaded some of it in .OSM format, and my casual hand digitization off Bing maps is much better. If I say so myself, which I do. That's not surprising if they last updated the NHD data between 1990 and

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Eric, I'm in general favor of your idea. I think that if we can get more accurate, up to date data out of TIGER, then we should. I'd strongly encourage you to join us on the OSM US Import Committee list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us - Serge

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/16/13 7:59 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Eric, I'm in general favor of your idea. I think that if we can get more accurate, up to date data out of TIGER, then we should. I'd strongly encourage you to join us on the OSM US Import Committee list:

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Thread Eric Fischer
Thanks. I just joined the list and will send a message there. Eric On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I'm in general favor of your idea. I think that if we can get more accurate, up to date data out of TIGER, then we should. I'd strongly

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-12 Thread Mike N
On 3/11/2013 10:10 PM, Eric Fischer wrote: I would like to update OpenStreetMap with as many of the corrections that have been made to TIGER as can be applied to Open StreetMap without altering anything that has been edited directly in OSM. Thanks for coming up with this; I've been hoping

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/12/13 5:00 PM, Mike N wrote: On 3/11/2013 10:10 PM, Eric Fischer wrote: The results of application will depend on both the original data and the 2012 data. For layouts with 'regular geometry' - roughly square, rectangular, or rhomboid layouts, the results will be generally good. For

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-12 Thread Eric Fischer
Thanks for the helpful comments. At least anecdotally, I think I have actually seen the TIGER merge lead to more anomalies in gridded areas than in hills, maybe because people feel more comfortable making minor edits to mostly-regular grids. I completely agree that any new ways imported from

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-12 Thread Eric Fischer
That sounds like a good idea to me. I want to be careful not to break anything. Eric On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/12/13 9:32 PM, Eric Fischer wrote: Thanks for the helpful comments. At least anecdotally, I think I have actually seen the

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
I'm not exactly following the logic in the code. Could you produce a .osc file result with the changes that it would make? From: Eric Fischer [mailto:e...@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:11 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: Michal Migurski; Alex Barth Subject: [Talk-us] Updating

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-11 Thread Eric Fischer
Sorry not to be clear! Here is the .osc output for those four Indiana counties. (I hope I have all the formatting right. Osmconvert doesn't seem to apply my added tag, although it changes the nodes for the way, and I don't understand what is going wrong.)