Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-18 Thread James Mast
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:01:35 -0500 From: ba...@ursamundi.org To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 PM, James Mast wrote: Maybe we should invite the MapBox paid mappers to join in this conversation? This is something

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-18 Thread Martijn van Exel
> On Jun 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > > secondarily, if it is indeed the case that this is mostly happening > because of paid mappers (i don't know that for a fact), can we > please contact who ever is supervising the paid mappers and > discuss whether their training program and

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 PM, James Mast wrote: > Maybe we should invite the MapBox paid mappers to join in this > conversation? > This is something I would like to become (hint, hint). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lis

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/14/15 2:27 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > With both outdated imagery and the Ohio River [1], I've had better > luck placing redundant `note` tags on every way that such a mapper > would be inclined to delete. iD shows `note` in a big box in the > sidebar. It's a bit harder to miss than a (heretofo

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-14 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2015-06-11 06:42, Richard Welty wrote: please, please when doing the armchair mapping thing, be aware that aerial imagery may be several years out of date. yesterday i discovered that a highway reconfiguration i'd mapped in Rensselaer, NY had been realigned with the out-of-date bing aerial im

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-12 Thread Kam, Kristen
ers Subject: Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers There is an open item in iD to display the date of the aerial imagery alongside the attribution message. We actually don’t get this from most tile providers, but we can get it from Bing in the response header. Would definitely welcome a p

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-12 Thread Mike N
On 6/12/2015 1:47 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: If it turns out that this is not an accident but a systemic problem (e.g. due to the mapper employing some sort of TIGER<->OSM comparison and systematically re-adding stuff) then the mapper should be encouraged to be more diligent, or if that is not poss

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/11/15 18:46, Mike N wrote: >I've seen this problem also - an area marked for construction, all > roads bulldozed out, - the roads re-appear due to a TIGER<>OSM > comparison test because they're in Bing. > > An area where all buildings are demolished and a single large entity >

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread James Mast
Maybe we should invite the MapBox paid mappers to join in this conversation? They are the major people doing this. -James > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:10:58 -0400 > From: nice...@att.net > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers > >

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2015 12:46 PM, Mike N wrote: I've seen this problem also - an area marked for construction, all roads bulldozed out, - the roads re-appear due to a TIGER<>OSM comparison test because they're in Bing. Speaking of which, one of those came back to life yesterday. I tried the README

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Yes, it has. I was using it not all that long ago. I’m sure it’s just a temporary outage. d. > On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:59, Richard Welty wrote: > > On 6/11/15 1:27 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: >> Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS >>

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 1:27 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: > Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS > > Unfortunately, the WMS server seems to be misbehaving right now. I > sent a note to what I hope are the right people about that. > i had found Randy's page back when Darrell b

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS Unfortunately, the WMS server seems to be misbehaving right now. I sent a note to what I hope are the right people about that. d. > On Jun 11, 2015, at 08:43, Ian Dees wrote: >

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 12:46 PM, Mike N wrote: > > My current strategy is to leave the original objects, just remove > all tagging except for a note about Bing imagery dated is out of > date. > i did this with a slip ramp from I-90 nearby that was removed when a roundabout was put in; i had removed the

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2015 10:41 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i am not persuaded that these armchair mappers are paying attention. unless there's a big warning "this imagery is X years old" that can't be ignored, i think the information will frequently be ignored. I've seen this problem also - an area marked f

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Ian Dees
Such a thing exists and is here: https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index It is used by iD and Potlatch, with JOSM output available but not installed by default. I'm happy to help anyone add their imagery. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: > Another useful tool mig

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Another useful tool might be to have a repository of local imagery servers that can automatically become available when in an appropriate area. For instance, I use the 2014 NAIP imagery via a WMS server in JOSM. It’s only 1m resolution, but it’s great for double checking that nothing has changed

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
There is an open item in iD to display the date of the aerial imagery alongside the attribution message. We actually don’t get this from most tile providers, but we can get it from Bing in the response header. Would definitely welcome a pull request if someone wants to take a shot at implement

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Thompson
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > i'd like a tag that we could use that has some editor support, it might > be the > case that all we need is a pop up dialog when there's a README tag that > says > something like "Read this before committing: " > I like this suggestion.

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 10:05 AM, Kam, Kristen wrote: > We need to make it more easier to load up-to-date imagery to our OSM editing > applications. And I think something easy as publicizing the date of the > imagery collection would get folks to do a double take before using older > imagery. > i am not per

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Kam, Kristen
We need to make it more easier to load up-to-date imagery to our OSM editing applications. And I think something easy as publicizing the date of the imagery collection would get folks to do a double take before using older imagery. Kristen Sent from OWA on Android _