[Talk-us] Cardinal directions on highways & foreign languages

[Angela Morley]

 I've come across an issue with the current implementation of cardinal
directions in roles of relations. In certain areas of the world, roles are
being used to determine the cardinal direction of a way in accordance with
the AASHTO requirements, however those locales change the official name of
the cardinal direction to the name of the direction in their local
languages on road signage. Examples include highways in Puerto Rico and
Quebec.

Should the tags north, south, east, and west be assigned in these locations
according to the official language used on the road signs for those
locations (precedent exists like this with Key:name), or should they remain
English worldwide, regardless of country?

This problem has come up in a bug report I was filing with OSRM where they
are currently just spitting out values like $north directly into the end
user instructions because they don't know what the best way to handle the
problem is yet. I had asked for it to be rendered as North, however the
question of internationalization came up, and was so valid and pressing I
thought it prudent to start a conversation about the topic. ( If you're
curious, the original bug report: https://github.com/
Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/4918 )

Angela
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Re: [Talk-us] Satus CDP

[Michael Patrick]

>   1. Satus CDP (Clifford Snow)

In the middle of the Yakama Nation Indian Reservation sits Satus [1] that
as far as I know only exists in some Census bureaucrat world. Asking around
here I haven't found anyone familiar with the area. Wikipedia [2] doesn't
help much either.

I'd like to remove it from OSM. What reasonable checks do I need to do
before> deleting it.

The Yakima Tribe has a GIS Department
, also Yakima County
 - I'd pop them a note.

Also the Tribal Cultural Center .
>From the WA State metadata, Satus falls in the contested treaty lands zone.
Under various legal and administration perspectives, BIA reservation
boundaries are not the last word. There are many situations where tribes
have influence over areas outside reservation boundaries. It might even
spur them and their members to contribute to the map.

Inversely, it might have been dropped from the Census on their request -
some place names have a negative historical narrative.

Having the US Census import as the origin of much map creates these
situations - a place name may be hugely important to the local community,
for instance, because it is a cross roads, or has some sort of other
centrality, but appears to have nothing 'on the ground'. The main goal of
the census was statistical areas, since the roads are readily available
'boundary' they are their, but their actual spatial accuracy is irrelevant
to some extent - but topology was critical. .

i.e. "ask the locals" :-)

   - *Mission Statement: Provide the Nation with relevant and reliable
   geographic and parcel information for all lands of tribal interest. This
   information supports tribal resource specialists in creating innovative
   management solutions while protecting the rights guaranteed the Yakama
   Nation by the Treaty of June 9, 1855. (509) 865-5121 Ext. 4647*

Michael Patrick
Data Ferret





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Re: [Talk-us] Satus CDP

[Brian Stromberg]

As someone who does research with Census data, it would be helpful to keep
all Census geographies in place (at least until Census decides to get rid
of them). Someone will use them at some point. Additionally, they're an
official component of Census geographies, as bureaucratic as that might be.
That alone seems to make them significant enough to keep. Deleting them
because they appear useless seems short sighted. It's not like roads are
deleted from OSM just because nobody uses them.

--
Brian

On Feb 27, 2018 2:30 AM, "Wolfgang Zenker" 
wrote:

* Clifford Snow  [180227 01:59]:
> In the middle of the Yakama Nation Indian Reservation sits Satus [1] that
> as far as I know only exists in some Census bureaucrat world. Asking
around
> here I haven't found anyone familiar with the area. Wikipedia [2] doesn't
> help much either.

> I'd like to remove it from OSM. What reasonable checks do I need to do
> before deleting it. Or do they belong in OSM and I should leave it alone.

> I should add that the reason I want to delete it is because currently
> shares a boundary with the Yakama Nation. The boundary needs updating.

I would delete it, the boundary is useless. The name is still on the
place node next to what I guess used to be the railway station.

Wolfgang
(lyx @ osm)

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Re: [Talk-us] how can we fix anonymous spam comments

[Andy Townsend]

On 27/02/2018 09:10, Badita Florin wrote:


This anonymous user is leaving a comment with hundred of 



You can see an example here https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1257677


I've hidden the original note, since someone's readded the sensible bits 
of it to a new note.  (I can unhide if anyone really wants to see it).  
There are admin-level ways to try and prevent specific types of note 
abuse; the original reason for the complaint at 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1543 was 
stopped that way.


Best Regards,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-us] how can we fix anonymous spam comments

[Ilya Zverev]

To me, anonymous comments to existing notes bear no value. But people are 
divided on that.

See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1543

Ilya

> 27 февр. 2018 г., в 12:10, Badita Florin  написал(а):
> 
> They are first and foremost putting a load on the database, with no added 
> value.
> 
> This anonymous user is leaving a comment with hundred of 
> 
> 
> You can see an example here https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1257677
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[Talk-us] how can we fix anonymous spam comments

[Badita Florin]

They are first and foremost putting a load on the database, with no added
value.

This anonymous user is leaving a comment with hundred of


You can see an example here https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1257677


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