Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Mike N
On 1/9/2018 8:47 PM, Jack Burke wrote: Someone on the osmus Slack channel pointed out that this would affect routing for people who are in the town and want to go somewhere else in town, where that route wouldn't normally involve travelling on the major through roads. I haven't thought

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Jack Burke
Someone on the osmus Slack channel pointed out that this would affect routing for people who are in the town and want to go somewhere else in town, where that route wouldn't normally involve travelling on the major through roads. -jack On January 9, 2018 4:31:22 PM EST, Paul Norman

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/8/2018 10:53 AM, Jack Burke wrote: I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do about this. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/ If they actually go through with it, access=destination on the applicable streets, or

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
What most of us largely "know" (in this context, as we, myself included, posit both opinion and potential solutions) comes from a web-based news article. It isn't clear to me that a local ordinance has already passed specifying "something." Same with signs on-the-ground, speaking personally,

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 13:53:02 -0500 Jack Burke wrote: > I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do > about this. Tag traffic signs? It is not clear from article is it - motor_vehicle=destination - vehicle=destination - toll=yes - nothing, article is

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Rihards
On 2018.01.08. 21:42, Andrew Matheny wrote: >>are there matching street signs ? > > I'm not sure. But if we know a street has legally-restricted access, I > think our tagging should match that access regardless of whether there's > a sign or not. yeah, my question was exactly about this - how

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Andrew Matheny
>are there matching street signs ? I'm not sure. But if we know a street has legally-restricted access, I think our tagging should match that access regardless of whether there's a sign or not. Example: Service roads inside an apartment complex (usually tagged "access=private") are an example of

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Mike N
On 1/8/2018 2:17 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: I might suggest a solution OSM might consider can be to tag access=destination and/or residential=living_street. From the video, they're definitely not living_street, so most likely access=destination. But the streets should not "be

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Rihards
On 2018.01.08. 21:07, Andrew Matheny wrote: > I believe the affected streets would just need a conditional access tag, no? > > Something like: > > access:conditional=destination @ (06:00-10:00; 16:00-21:00) are there matching street signs ? of course, a better approach would be adding traffic

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
First, as they are public (not private) streets, anybody has the right to traverse them. Yes, a local ordinance might (in the near future) prohibit access for "cut-through," it is the right of the municipality to pass such an ordinance and for local police to enforce it. "We don't want the

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Andrew Matheny
I believe the affected streets would just need a conditional access tag, no? Something like: access:conditional=destination @ (06:00-10:00; 16:00-21:00) Thanks, Andrew On Jan 8, 2018 12:55 PM, "Jack Burke" wrote: I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we

[Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Jack Burke
I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do about this. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/ --jack -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology___ Talk-us mailing list