The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Onj
I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the content of this message speak for itself? From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not signed the WFA user protest site. Before I sta

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the author's attitude, despite his good intentions. Steve On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote: I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the con

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Daniel R
Agreed Steve. Maybe if he was nicer, and asked kindly, i would have considered it. Luckily you posted, because right to the delete button I was going. On 3/1/10, Stephen Clower wrote: > So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get > them is to insult everybody? I won't si

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Onj
you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though. And though I agree with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead? I'm asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something useful, will have no GPS undder his platform. You have Mobile Geo and yo

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Brandon Hicks
Agreed. This message speaks of childish tantrums. Even the Freedom Scientific petition didn't get much over a thousand signatures, if even that. This one's not going to get much more. I thought about it until I got to about the third line of the message. Brandon Stephen Clower wrote: So... he

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A telecomm company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't car

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. well I myself think simbian rocks. win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business. On that note wander why no one has designed something around a linux distro, ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else. could probably work to. and you could run linux apps on your mobile. At

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, very different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to operate aren't present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. A screen reader is in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may be

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. thought symbian was opensource. oh well what exactly will we all use after all that goes away. not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old phones mine still works. I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems then. android looks pro

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
It's open source, but to release it that way, Nokia had to remove a lot of closed-source components that are critical to the platform itself. If you compiled and installed what's on the internet right now, you'd end up with a brick. Steve On 3/1/2010 5:11 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmph. thoug

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Doug Langley
and, symbian is changing the UI to a better GUI which is visually appealing and doesnt look like a dos app from 1996. Tthe problem with this new GUI is its very lacking in the accessibility department. and will probably take screen reader venders several years to redesign things to work with th

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Dj Paddy
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RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

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Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
I must reluctantly aggree with simbian on that one. yeah its simple and works but it does look like a dos program from 1996. At any rate this wayfinder thing is supposed to go either nokia or vodaphone internal so we have gps subsystems that come with the phone. now as long as they use the same th