[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #688 19/09/2023-25/09/2023

2023-10-01 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 688, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16749 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Good to hear from you, Bob. As somebody who spends a lot of time out in remote places, what's your thoughts on the concept? Thanks Graeme On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 15:45, Bob Cameron wrote: > I managed (to buy) a coffee in Windorah two years ago.. That has to count > for something.. > > They

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 12:34, Yuchen Pei wrote: > Hello, > > I read in a 6-year old post[1] that the Netherlands had an address > coverage of over 99%. This made me curious what would be the Australian > number. G-NAF boasts 15M addresses[2], whereas according to > metrics.improveosm.org there

Re: [OSM-ja] Plateau インポートの進め方と再開について

2023-10-01 Thread Miura Hiroshi
umapjpnic793 さん これまでの議論からすると、北区のようにしっかり建物がすでにはいっている地域については、 質的向上が目的になりますが、まずは量的面的な充実が必要な地域からPlateauデータの 活用をすすめる、という方針になります。 北区の建物の高さなどを充実させるために、どうすればよいか、各地の取り組みやプログラムの 改善を待つようにしたいとおもいます。 2023年10月1日(日) 18:06 伊織浅沼 : > umapjpnic793 です(mailman見習い) > 突然の連絡で恐縮ですが失礼させていただきます。

Re: [talk-au] What is the license of vicmap2osm?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Sun 2023-10-01 21:02:52 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, at 8:25 PM, Yuchen Pei wrote: >> The repo for the vicmap importing project, vicmap2osm[1] seems to be >> missing a license, could you add one please? Thank you. > package.json declares it as under the MIT license,

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Sun 2023-10-01 21:33:45 +1100, Warin wrote: > [... 25 lines elided] > --- > I have been adding addr:street to those places with addr:housenumber > where possible. If you are adding addr:housenumber then it is not much > more work to add the addr:street data. There are a few

Re: [talk-au] What is the license of vicmap2osm?

2023-10-01 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, at 8:25 PM, Yuchen Pei wrote: > The repo for the vicmap importing project, vicmap2osm[1] seems to be > missing a license, could you add one please? Thank you. package.json declares it as under the MIT license, but I've added a dedicated LICENSE file now for clarity. > I

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 688 19/09/2023-25/09/2023

2023-10-01 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 688 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16749/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On 1 October 2023 12:56:20 GMT+11:00, Phil Wyatt wrote: > but I also see that the VIC > import is well progressed How is it well progressed, do you have a link showing the progress? From what I see it seems to be stalled. -- Best, Yuchen Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my

[OSM-ja] Plateau インポートの進め方と再開について

2023-10-01 Thread 伊織浅沼
umapjpnic793 です(mailman見習い) 突然の連絡で恐縮ですが失礼させていただきます。 メーリングリストよりPlateauインポートについて拝見しましたが、これについて私も同意します。 既に既存の建物データが多い東京都北区で、現時点で実行することについて想定していなかったので連絡すべきタイミングを見逃してしまいました。 インポートのお手伝いとして、こちら側(私)で既に調査済み建造物についてPlateauデータと突合/照合作業のみ自主的に行っておいたほうがよろしいでしょうか?

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Warin
On 1/10/23 18:25, Bob Cameron wrote: To be honest Graeme I look at key services specific to my need. Kind of like a weighted value that only applies to me. The use of a macro label hamlet, village, town are kind of too open ended. Population does roughly track with services so I tend to use

[Talk-tr] weeklyOSM #688 19/09/2023-25/09/2023

2023-10-01 Thread weeklyteam
OSM ile ilgili haberlerin derlendiği ve OpenStreetMap dünyasındaki pek çok gelişmelerin paylaşıldığı haftalık bülten, 688. bölümüyle çevrimiçi ve Türkçe olarak erişilebilir durumda: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/tr/archives/16749/ İyi okumalar! weeklyOSM'e sizin de ekleme yapabileceğinizi

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Warin
On 1/10/23 18:08, Yuchen Pei wrote: On 1 October 2023 12:56:20 GMT+11:00, Phil Wyatt wrote: but I also see that the VIC import is well progressed How is it well progressed, do you have a link showing the progress? From what I see it seems to be stalled. I'd take it that someone is

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Bob Cameron
To be honest Graeme I look at key services specific to my need. Kind of like a weighted value that only applies to me. The use of a macro label hamlet, village, town are kind of too open ended. Population does roughly track with services so I tend to use that as  rough start, but never a

[talk-au] What is the license of vicmap2osm?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
Hi Andrew, The repo for the vicmap importing project, vicmap2osm[1] seems to be missing a license, could you add one please? Thank you. [1] https://gitlab.com/alantgeo/vicmap2osm/ I would have created an issue on the gitlab repo if I had an account there, but apart from the horrible recaptcha,

[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #688 19/09/2023-25/09/2023

2023-10-01 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 688, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16749 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Sun 2023-10-01 21:20:38 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > [... 23 lines elided] > Is there a way to efficiently improve the address coverage in > Australia? > What are the main roadblocks? > I don't have the numbers, but StreetComplete would already be helping > already to improve

[OSM-ja] Plateau インポートの進め方と再開について

2023-10-01 Thread 伊織浅沼
umapjpnic793 です 分かりました、連絡いただきありがとうございます、急がず検証したいと思います。 結果の作成 or 転送方法を確認したいです、JOSMで1st段階のものからローカルにマージ評価だけは行えそうですが、(私が行う場合、現時点では)スクリプトは走らせない前提とします。 GML由来のref:MLIT_PLATEAU の値との紐付けが主な作業(例えばOSM wayID)となるのでしょうか? 調査済み区域であっても、私有地、侵入不可等の都合で確認できていない建物もいくつかあります。

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Bob Cameron
A lady served me a burger and coffee at Windorah Roadhouse. I think I remember the supermarket also had some limited fast food. I had a sit down feed at the pub in a prior visit. Was eaten alive by mozzies at Stonehenge (Qld) pub. The visitors centre there (also a RTC and small supermarket)

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 21:34, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Then simply the major cities of Brisbane Brisbane itself is already done via an import of BCC data a few years ago, but this is only "Brisbane" itself, not the surrounding "cities" Thanks Graeme

[talk-au] vicmap import (was Re: How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?)

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Mon 2023-10-02 11:45:05 +1100, Yuchen Pei wrote: > [... 10 lines elided] > Maybe we can go stage by stage. Stage 2 - Set unit from housenumber Judging from the command I guess the full info of the changesets are encoded in dist/conflate/mr_explodeUnitFromNumber.geojson. I did a search in

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
I am re-sending the following message without the attachment, as the original message is held in the moderation queue due to its size. Sorry for any duplication if that one is approved, but I might forget if I don't resend, and the delay could also be confusing to people because I already sent

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for that, Ian! & yes On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 11:56, Little Maps wrote: > It'd be great to develop some clear guidelines to guide future changes. > It would be! Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-01 Thread Ben Ritter
(I'm a little late to this thread, but wanted to add my two cents.) I agree with Tom's take and have commented below: On Mon, 25 Sept 2023, 8:26 am Tom Brennan, wrote: > Tricky one. > > I have sympathy for Land Managers. There can be many reasons why they > don't want people visiting a place,

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 14:27, stevea wrote: > Whoops, meant to send this to the list, I sent it to Graeme only. > I've done the same myself recently, when I've forgotten that the AU list has to reply-all! The forum is much easier that way :-) Thanks Graeme PS & thanks for your input, Steve!

[talk-au] Fwd: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread stevea
Whoops, meant to send this to the list, I sent it to Graeme only. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: stevea > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by > relative importance, not just population size) > Date: October 1, 2023 at 9:17:40 PM PDT > To: Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Little Maps
Hi all, I’m late to this but, my two bobs worth… I’d prefer it if a simple, flat rule was used to define towns/villages etc, preferably based on population alone, but using proxies such as area or number of houses where pop data aren’t available. A few reasons… Vector based maps (such as

Re: [talk-au] vicmap import (was Re: How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?)

2023-10-01 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Mon 2023-10-02 12:22:46 +1100, Yuchen Pei wrote: > On Mon 2023-10-02 11:45:05 +1100, Yuchen Pei wrote: >> [... 10 lines elided] >> Maybe we can go stage by stage. > Stage 2 - Set unit from housenumber > Judging from the command I guess the full info of the changesets are > encoded in

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

2023-10-01 Thread Little Maps
Hi again, fyi. I was curious to see how variable city/town tags were in relation to population. About 1500 places spread around Aus have a population tag according to an Overpass Turbo search. This number includes place= village, hamlet, town and city. I didn't include place=locality or other