Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Igor Polk
Huck Kennedy: "You will be seriously handicapped unless you always know exactly which note, phrase, etc. is coming next in the song." You are "seriously handicapped", if you can not dance tango ( musically ! ) to an unfamiliar song ! However, your advice about the CDs is excellent. Frankly, I do

[Tango-L] Lydia & the Miami Festival

2007-12-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
This morning (Wed), Lydia Henson goes under the knife on knee one. I gather what she will endure is painful to recover from ... but it is to fix what has been SO painful for a long time. And that being taken care of, there will be the other knee next.! Those of us who have been in her little

[Tango-L] Milongueros danced in Congress on November 30

2007-12-05 Thread Janis Kenyon
It's a unique opportunity for the public to enter the Congress building and enjoy tango in the enormous hall under the dome for Dia del Tango. This year's theme was a tribute to milongueros. I was in line for the 7:00pm event one hour early with ten people ahead of me. The line was a block long

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Huck Kennedy
Igor Polk writes: > Huck Kennedy: "You will be seriously handicapped unless > you always know exactly which note, phrase, etc. is coming > next in the song." > > You are "seriously handicapped", if you can not dance > tango ( musically ! ) to an unfamiliar song ! Reading is fundamental. I d

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Igor Polk
To Huck, who wrote: "..you can't dance the song nearly as musically as you could if you did know the music intimately." No. I belive a musical piece has enough hints what is going on. Which are obvious for the trained ear. - First of all the next bar is similar to the previous. You will get the fe

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Huck Kennedy
Igor Polk writes: > Because they are slow: you have plenty of time to > react and to interpret. IF YOU KNOW HOW ! "If you know how." Cute. :-) This totally misses the point I was making, that no matter how well one can process and react to unfamiliar music (which means yes, you do know how,

Re: [Tango-L] Milongueros danced in Congress on November 30

2007-12-05 Thread Igor Polk
Janis, At the page you advised at the end: www.totango.net/milongueros.html you said: "A milonguero is a self-taught dancer who developed his own personal style of tango. He can dance well with any woman, elegantly and creatively". I like that ! Igor Polk _

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread 'Mash
mu·si·cal·i·ty 1. The quality or condition of being musical. 2. Musical sensitivity or talent. I suppose through listening to a lot of Tango one would pick up on the predictably of it and apply that to new Tangos. I agree that one would dance better if you knew the song or have the aptitu

[Tango-L] Buenos Aires Mystery Tree

2007-12-05 Thread Alberto Gesualdi
Rose, this is one of the things that could happen, not only in Salon Canning. The eye contact for dancing is not a general guideline, men could tap you in the shoulder from behind, or rather come in front of you and invited to dance. If you like mysteries, I hope you have noticed there is a tree

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Chris, UK
Huck wrote: > don't waste your money on so-called "musicality classes." Indeed. Musicality classes are about as much use as gorgeousicality classes or tallicality classes ;) If you have even a modicum of feeling for the music, you're disqualified as a musicality class student. And as a musica

Re: [Tango-L] I wanna buy a tango book

2007-12-05 Thread Chris, UK
Krasimir wrote > Same thing with the author of this book - he knows practically nothing of > AT walking. But writes a book and wants people to pay for it. I guess you're referring to http://www.apassionfortango.com/site/walk.asp etc.? As one who lives near this tango community, "Market Harborou

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew RYSER SZYMAÑSKI
1)In the tango, the man keeps the woman guessing, but the music keeps the man guessing. There is no fun in dancing day in day out to the same music: this eventually leads to choreography, the opposite of tango, which is based on improvisation. Anybody who insists that the dancers dance better if th

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Igor Polk
Huck, "If you know how" is not "cute". It is serious! To know dozens of ways to interpret unfamiliar melody and rhythm pattern in your body and infuse it in your partner so that it feels totally in unison with unfamiliar music is a very serious skill. Art, I would say. Fortunately, none of these w

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Bruno Afonso
Some people can stare at a painting for 10 years and not get it. Others only need 5 seconds. I hope you get this. BA On 12/5/07, Igor Polk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To Huck, who wrote: > "..you can't dance the song nearly as musically as you could if you did > know the music intimately." > > N

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Koos de Wit
To Huck, Igor, Chris, Bruno, Andy and others, I strongly underline Igor's "A musical piece has enough hints what is going on" and I love Andy's ideal milonga with only unknown music. I disagree completely with Huck's "We want to know precisely everything that is coming, so we can dance with as

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality

2007-12-05 Thread Jay Rabe
Random comments about recent thread on musicality: Like many, I have taken several "musicality" classes. I have not found them as totally worthless as some have posted. I agree an individual's amount of musicality in dancing is limited by the musicality they hear, which is like an innate skill,

[Tango-L] Buenos Aires Mystery

2007-12-05 Thread Janis Kenyon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... <> I will make a guess that you were in Salon Canning on a Tuesday night when there are many foreigners. You were seated with your friend. In a traditional milonga, that means you are going to dance only with him. <> He left you alone, unguarded. Foreign m

[Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Janis Kenyon
Huck Kennedy wrote in part: For those of you of a certain age in countries where the Beatles were hugely popular, do you remember how so many people growing up at the time knew every single one of their songs intimately, so much so that the music was practically running through our veins? ... Well

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality

2007-12-05 Thread Tom Stermitz
Musicality is essential, yet most of us learn it in a random, intuitive process over time. It works, but it shouldn't be left to chance. I am one who feels that musicality can be taught if the teacher strategizes the learning sequence. I would argue that EVERY class in tango should teach

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-05 Thread Bruno Afonso
hi Koos, For the sake of mis-using my words (not your fault, I was ambiguous by choice) I actually have to say don't agree that much with Igor's post and I found offensive the way he replied. I honestly believe we must have very different notions of what musicality and fully immersing oneself into